from: http://www.churchinneed.org
“The Islamists are taking revenge on us Christians”: With these words the Coptic-Catholic Bishop of Assiut, Kyrillos William Samaan, commented on the latest Islamist attacks on Christians and Christian institutions in Egypt.
The bishop made his comments while talking to international Catholic pastoral charity Aid to the Church in Need (ACN) on Monday, August 12th.
The Bishop was referring among other things to events in the towns of Sohag, Fayum and Beni Suef and on the Sinai Peninsula, where churches have been attacked by Islamists and Christians have been threatened. There have also been fatalities.
In the town of Sohag, there were reports that Islamic extremists had raised the black Al-Qaida flag over a church.
Al-Qaida leader Ayman al-Zawahiri had accused Egypt’s Christians of being jointly responsible with the military and the forces of the Mubarak regime for toppling the Islamist head of state Mohamed Mursi on July 3 of this year.
“This is absurd, of course. 33 million Egyptians had demanded his resignation. We Christians were not the only ones to demonstrate against Mursi,” Bishop Kyrillos said.
In view of the current security situation, the bishop said he was worried but that he did not wish to reproach the law enforcement forces. “The police and the other organs of the state are at present busy keeping the Islamists under control.”
The Bishop stressed, however, that the climate had changed considerably for Egypt’s Christians since the fall of Mursi. “We feel at home again in Egypt,” Kyrillos explained.
He went on to emphasize that non-Christian publicists would now speak up for the Christians by stressing that the Christians should not be expected to pay the price of democratization.
The Bishop also saw it as a positive sign that in Sohag or Assiut, for example, moderate Muslims had defended Christian churches against demonstrating Islamists.
“This is the true Egypt: Christians and Muslims are united,” Bishop Kyrillos continued.
According to him, this year’s message from Pope Francis at the end of the Islamic fast of Ramadan was received very positively.
For the first time the Pope had use the opportunity to address Muslims worldwide personally. In previous years, the letter had been published by the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue on the Pope’s behalf.
The Bishop criticized the deposed Muslim brothers for refusing to accept the new government’s offers of reconciliation.
“The problem is that they still want to have an Islamic state. The majority of Egyptians are happy, however, that this has not come about. They want a liberal state,” Bishop Kyrillos claimed.
The bishop is optimistic with regard to the future constitution. A 50-strong committee would soon be revising the constitution drawn up under the Islamist Mursi and adopted by referendum.
Representatives of Egyptian Christians would also be collaborating in this effort.
“All social forces will work on it. I am confident that state and religion will be separated. After all, mixing them is the source of much evil.”
The Coptic-Orthodox Patriarch Tawadros II, the head of the largest Church in Egypt, made a plea on Monday for the avoidance of further bloodshed in the face of denominational tensions.
According to media reports, the Patriarch has suspended the weekly audiences in his Cairo cathedral for fear of attacks.
Previously, 16 Egyptian human rights groups had accused the Islamists of stirring up feelings against Egypt’s Christians since June 30th, the day of the mass protects against Mursi.
The human rights groups also criticized the state for not doing enough to protect Christian institutions and individuals.
Catholicism Pure & Simple 
“This is absurd, of course. 33 million Egyptians* had demanded his resignation. We Christians were not the only ones to demonstrate against Mursi,” Bishop Kyrill said.”
Nobody said they were. Al-Qaida claim Christians were jointly responsible, according to this story.
When you back the wrong horse, it’s no good moaning.
Violence is always deplorable, of course.
And mankind is congenitally mad.
Eerie echoes of Spain in 1936. Or so I think.
*Apparently, there are 85 million Egyptians. Make what you like of that.
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The only difficulty with such an analysis, Toad, is that we are just seeing the acceleration of a climate of oppression that was already growing up under the Morsi government: you can hardly blame Christians for wanting the ouster of a government that had been directly colluding in an increasingly systematic suppression of the Christian population if Egypt.
Having said that, I’m not seeing anything to celebrate in seeing a democratically elected government being kicked out by the military.
I suppose that it’s also worth thinking about the criteria for a government or system to be described as “democratic”: do we take that just to mean the method by which a government comes to office or do we include the way that a government behaves once in office?
I note that the usual suspects at the Grauniad are talking up the leader of the coup as a “new Nasser” (usual Graun dichotomy: Hungarians overwhelmingly elect an authoritarian but democratic government and we’re rekindling fascism; third world types install fascistic dictators (Venezuela, Egypt, Cuba) and they’re fêted and swooned over).
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The trouble with democracy, Raven, as you indicate – rightly, I think – is that it often reflects the majority view.
Which, in several countries, is not the same view as yours, or mine, is likely to be.
And, in places like Egypt, very far from it, indeed.
(I would suggest this is not unconnected to Relativism.)
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I guess the question that will never be satisfactorily answered is whether a government can be said to be “democratic” if it oppresses that part of the populace who did not choose it?
And if the answer is “yes”, is “democracy” worth a damn?
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When Our Lord came there were No Wars actually He came during a time of Peace. The Prince of Peace. Fatima was during “Religio depopulata” ww I and warning was given of WW II “Pastor angelicus” Garabandal also has what is called a Warning which points to WW III.
Wars following Wars
“Pray the Rosary every day in honor of Our Lady of the Rosary to obtain peace in the world . . . for she alone can save it.” (Our Lady, July 13, 1917)
“God has placed peace in her hands, and it is from the Immaculate Heart that men must ask it.” (Jacinta, shortly before her death)
“When you pray the Rosary, say after each mystery: ‘O Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to Heaven, especially those who have most need of your mercy.’ ” (June 13, 1917)
Fatima tell you how to obtain peace in the world! So if Fatima is disobeyed clearly we won’t obtain peace.
Better to think like a Child than procrastinate I think.
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