LMS Oxford Pilgrimage

Scenes from last year’s pilgrimage

This Saturday, 19th October, is the Latin Mass Society’s Oxford Pilgrimage in honour of Oxford’s Catholic Martyrs.

For more details please see Dr Shaw’s piece here.

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15 Responses to LMS Oxford Pilgrimage

  1. Gargantua says:

    Procession yes; pilgrimage, no.


  2. johnhenrycn says:

    You say tomahto, I say tomayto.

    Why did you pick a blog name based on a repulsive, obscene character?


  3. Toadspitttle says:

    “Toadspittle” was already taken.


  4. Gargantua says:

    Obscenity is in the eye of the beholder, like occupations. Why did you pick that occupation?

    Any topical comment on the article?


  5. Gargantua says:

    “You say tomahto, I say tomayto.”

    Are you suggesting that pilgrimage and procession are the same thing, with only a change of word? If so, I recommend a bit of swotting to correct this wayward notion. Better, go on pilgrimage.


  6. Toadspitttle says:

    Occupations are not in the eye of the beholder.
    How they are viewed might be.
    Toad became a hack simply because he didn’t have the talent to play the piano in a whorehouse.


  7. johnhenrycn says:

    Gargantua, the ultracrepidarian, thinks he knows everything.


  8. Gargantua says:

    Toad fellow is right.
    My comment on eyes, beholders and occupations makes no sense. Mea culpa.

    On names: Johnny, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet, would it not? And I am fragrant. Please take my previous advice about going on pilgrimage. There are many fine pilgrimages in Europe. Such a walking meditation takes the sharp edge off one’s character and your fellow pilgrims will not allow you to misbehave., or you will sleep in a hedge beside the litter and beer cans. You will mellow and reconnect with your precious soul.

    Begin with at least 4 weeks walking, though you can do more.

    If you need more info, you need only ask.


  9. Gargantua says:

    Johnny; to out me as a crepidarian is fine. To then reword it as “thinks he knows everything” is tautology. Tsk.


  10. johnhenrycn says:

    The word is ultracrepidarian – no such word as “crepidarian” – but there may be a some of them (not you, obviously) who admit to not knowing everything, so no cigar on the “tautology” taunt.

    If you Google “symbolic pilgrimage” you’ll get over 5 million hits. Have fun!


  11. johnhenrycn says:

    Actually, you only get 1,360,000 hits by Googling “symbolic pilgrimage”; but that should still keep you busy and out of my hair until Hallowe’en when you turn into a real pumpkin, not just a metaphorical one. Start with The Pilgrim’s Progress. Ta.


  12. Gargantua says:

    Thank you Johnny. I think you could be a Pantagruel!

    I will not research ‘symbolic pilgrimage’ for I never mentioned this – you did. I referred to real, actual pilgrimage, but sadly, you did not take me up on this.It’s not too late; it’s never too late.

    Let me tell you it is an ancient Christian and of course Catholic practice, tried and tested over thousands of years… you would reap much needed spiritual benefits (as we all do) , and if that were denied you, you would surely reap social benefits.

    Yes, you.

    Monks replicated this a little with meditations while walking in the cloisters; but I feel it is better to be out in the world, taking the ups and downs. Read Jonathan Sumption’s ‘Pilgrimage’ – irritatingly renamed for the transAtlantic market.


  13. Toadspitttle says:

    When we fink abart it – life’s reely all a sort of a kind of pilgrimage, reely – innit?

    Right, Toadie.
    Spot on, Squire.
    Bit of a procession, every now and then – as well.
    Too bleedin’ true!
    After The Lord Mayor’s show, well…

    (Toad’s gone an’ gorn off ‘is ‘ed, at last. Inevitable.)


  14. Gargantua says:

    Yes pilgrimage teaches us to “alwise look on the broit soid of loif”. I want this for JohnBoy.


  15. johnhenrycn says:

    What’s with all this “Johnny”, “JohnBoy” malarkey, Pumpkinhead? I never mangle your blog name.

    Where was I? Right: you say @14:20 that your opening salvo on this thread was meant to draw attention to the difference between a procession and a “real, actual pilgrimage”; but that’s not what you said yesterday @16:30. What you then said was: “Procession yes; pilgrimage, no.”, when it was clear to all but the most myopic and quibbling – not naming any names – that what was being referred to in the linked announcement was a symbolic pilgrimage, consisting of an opening Mass, short procession and concluding Benediction. I take it as read that the LMS Chairman, Dr Shaw, knows just as much as you, perhaps more, about what a “real, actual pilgrimage” entails. In short, you made a hash of things by being too clever. Or trying to be.


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