MPs overwhelmingly reject Assisted Dying Bill

Thanks be to God and the many people who prayed and fasted today.

from: The Catholic Herald

The House of Commons has voted on the Assisted Dying Bill (PA)

Rob Marris presented his private member’s Bill in the House of Commons today

MPs have voted to reject the Assisted Dying Bill introduced by Rob Marris MP.

The vote, which came after almost five hours of impassioned debate on both sides, resulted in 330 against the Bill and 118 in favour, a majority of 212.

The Bill, proposed by Labour MP Rob Marris, was based on Lord Falconer’s Bill which ran out of time in the House of Lords before the general election.

It would have allowed people with fewer than six months to live to be prescribed a lethal dose of drugs; they would have to be capable of taking these themselves. Every case would have had to be approved by two doctors and a High Court judge.

When the issue was last debated in Parliament in 1997 it was rejected by 234 to 89.

In a statement Archbishop Peter Smith of Southwark, the chairman of the Department of Christian Responsibility and Citizenship for the bishops’ conference, said he now hoped that “excellent practice in palliative care” would become a focus of political action.

He said: “I welcome Parliament’s recognition of the grave risks that this bill posed to the lives of our society’s most vulnerable people. There is much excellent practice in palliative care which we need to celebrate and promote, and I hope now the debate on assisted suicide is behind us, that this will become a focus for political action.

“I am encouraged by the participation of so many Catholics throughout England and Wales in this important discussion and hope that everyone involved will continue to support calls for better quality care as life nears its end.”

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25 Responses to MPs overwhelmingly reject Assisted Dying Bill

  1. Simon says:

    Thank God for this.

  2. Robert says:

    May All Be For the Greater Glory Of God and the Triumph Of The Immaculate. England is Our Lady’s Dowry and this Triumph is down to her.

  3. johnhenrycn says:

    WordPress no longer allows me to ‘Like’ anything on CP&S, and I’m too techno-illiterate and busy to seek a solution, but take it as read…
    ___
    The‘Assisted Dying’Bill? Not even the Newspeak contains such a word. Not yet:

    “Newspeak was the official language of Oceania, and had been devised to meet the ideological needs of Ingsoc, or English Socialism. In the year 1984 there was not as yet anyone who used Newspeak as his sole means of communication, either in speech or writing. The leading articles of the Times were written in it, but this was a tour de force which could only be carried out by a specialist, It was expected that Newspeak would have finally superseded Oldspeak (or standard English, as we should call it) by about the year 2050.”

    http://artcontext.org/remote/newspeak.html

    The professed purpose of the bill’s title was to emphasise neutrality when tabled, but as with so many other legislative overtures these past 30 or so years, its covert purpose was to force our thinking down a narrow channel that frames the debate strictly in terms of the best interests of the individual, with no thought being given or even permitted concerning the best interests of society.
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    How did Jeremy Corbyn vote, or was he busy elsewhere yesterday?

  4. johnhenrycn says:

    Uhm…can I request an editor’s indulgence so that line 3 reads:
    The ‘Assisted Dying’Bill? Not even Newspeak contains such a word. Not yet:

  5. Gertrude says:

    I have no idea JH if Jeremy Corbyn voted for/against this iniquitous Bill as I have not yet seen a list of which MP’s voted and which way. It is a good guess that he was busy writing his victory speech for his election today.

    A P.S. I have just heard that Corbyn did not vote at all.

  6. johnhenrycn says:

    Dear G: Before asking my question about him, I searched high and low for the answer, but I couldn’t find a full breakdown of the vote, not even on The Guardian that promised one. Doesn’t surprise me that he would not have voted, not so much because he was otherwise occupied, but because of the impact it might have on his political future, such as it is.

    I also tried to learn if he is Catholic, but again, no luck.

  7. Robert says:

    The Financial crisis caused monies to be taken from Social Services and deflected to propping up Global Banking. The effect has actually consolidated Capital into fewer global groups. This brought in economic austerity, which the electorate clearly doesn’t like. The elector votes on one set of policies and gets landed with governments that impose Austerity policies.
    Now Corbyn represents a hardening of Socialism and I have no doubt we shall see a hardening off a movement to the right. It is the middle ground that is being rejected. Remember this was seen in Greece.
    Now it is this climate of political division between the electors and the elected that can cause serious unrest in the nations, The war in the middle east is about fundamentalism. Corbyn election is also about socialism fundamentalism.
    There is a growing danger of War globally.
    Whether this is part of Fatima or not I cannot tell. However it was a financial crisis that lead to World War I and World War II.
    Fatima is at the level of the Old Testament miracles. We are called to defend the Faith. To avoid ambiguities and fudges Aquinas preached The Apostles Creed, The Our Father, and The Hail Mary. There is a certainty here of remaining with the Faith handed by Our Lord to his Church.
    In a climate of war and conflict ( I included political conflict) we need to pillar that is the Faith of All time. The price for defending this will be disbelief and radical.

  8. geoffkiernan says:

    According to Kaspers ‘ law of gradualism’ it is only a matter of time before it is introduced so Is all this elation a little premature….,?

  9. Tom Fisher says:

    According to Kaspers ‘ law of gradualism’ it is only a matter of time before it is introduced so Is all this elation a little premature…

    The elation is extremely premature. — Sorry to be grim but the cultural situation is changing very rapidly in the west, and euthanasia is just one front among many. The trend is clear. As recently as 2008 liberal candidate Obama felt he needed to claim to oppose gay marriage on religious grounds. Even the Republican candidate in 2016 will be reticent about doing that. Just consider the following small sample of moral issues that have been debated in the west in the last half century: No fault divorce, access to legal abortions, legalised homosexuality, gays serving in the military, legalised gay marriage etc. etc. In all these cases, once the political fight was joined the same pattern was followed. The liberal position began as a minority view, and won a generation or so later. With the demographic collapse of Christianity in Europe that process can only accelerate. The only conservative political force in the west that is growing in strength over the long term seems to be Islam.

  10. johnhenrycn says:

    “According to Kaspers ‘law of gradualism’ “
    I think I’ve heard of that law, Man from Perth, but cannot remember Kasper advocating it. Sounds like a myth to me😉 Myths aside, citations are what we orthodox Catholics insist on.

    …about the defeat of the Assisted Dying Bill, you ask: “Is all this elation a little premature….?” Good point, because, as you suggest, it will become law. Sadly, for the killers of old people (and the Canada Pension Plan) my plan is to live until 100. I’m destined to see it enacted. Like my Granny.

    My Granny (Finnish Lutheran) lived 100 years and 55 days and spent her last days endlessly repeating the word “Yaysoos” – whatever that means. Here’s the hymn I played for her, also endlessly during those last 55 days- Oi kiitos, sa Luojani armollinen:

  11. Tom Fisher says:

    JH, re your query about Corbyn – I don’t know, but I did find some older info. that may be suggestive:

    There was a vote on 10 Dec. ’97.

    That leave be given to bring in a Bill to enable a person who is suffering distress as a result of his terminal illness or incurable physical condition to obtain assistance from a doctor to end his life; and for connected purposes.
    Question put, pursuant to Standing Order No. 23 (Motions for leave to bring in Bills and nomination of Select Committees at commencement of public business):–
    Those voting Aye in this division wanted a bill to be introduced to allow a terminally ill person to obtain assistance in dying from a doctor.

    Corbyn voted No.

    http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=1997-12-10&number=111&mpn=Jeremy_Corbyn&mpc=Islington_North&house=commons

  12. johnhenrycn says:

    “According to Kaspers ‘ law of gradualism’…”

    Hmm. Looks like I’m quoting Tom Fisher quoting our Man in Perth…

    My goodness! I’ve always liked our Man in Auckland or wherever, even though he’s not always liked me, but never thought I’d hear him condemn things like: “legalised homosexuality, gays serving in the military, legalised gay marriage”…. Hey, GC! Where’s that Fire Island essay by Midge Decter that you and I admire, but which our Man in Auckland or wherever tried to have me banned from CP&S for quoting? Oh right: here it is😉

  13. Tom Fisher says:

    JH, I’ve never heard of Kasper’s ‘law of Gradualism’, I was just responding to Geoff’s comment about premature elation. Only Geoff knows where it’s from.

    Who has ever tryed to have you banned from CP&S?

  14. johnhenrycn says:

    My goodness again! Tom Fisher at 06:23 answers my Corbyn question.

    “You may talk o’ gin an’ beer,
    but when it comes to Corbyn quotes,
    You’re the finest man I knew…
    You squidgy-nosed old idol…
    You Lazarushian-leather…
    You’re a better man than I am!

    …and a better researcher, too🙂

  15. johnhenrycn says:

    Tom says:
    “JH, I’ve never heard of Kasper’s ‘law of Gradualism’ “
    Sigh…but you just quoted (05:56) our Man in Perth (04:00) who referred to it. So I thought it was something all you down-under people knew about. Sorry.

  16. Tom Fisher says:

    Gunga Din! Ban the blaggard!

  17. johnhenrycn says:

    Tom asks:
    Who has ever tryed to have you banned from CP&S?
    Is that Olde English😉 ?
    But yes, you advocated my banishment on an old thread dealing with homosexuals (so called). If one of the people I admire most on this blog was not vacationing on the Scandinavian equivalent of Fire Island, he could find that thread and back me up (no puns please).

  18. Tom Fisher says:

    Oh I remember!

    I just wanted you to get one of those solemn looking deleted by moderator notes struck through one of your posts. — And you’ll recall I recanted not long after, I was annoyed with myself for suggesting it. I read it (and I can’t remember it well, and it doesn’t matter) as being too harsh on our homosexual brethren.

    Is that Olde English I was too upset by your remark for modern, — let alone correct — spelling🙂

    Been to Shag Point once by the way. Was about minus 5 celcius, with rain and angry seabirds. — Don’t be deceived potential tourists.

  19. johnhenrycn says:

    Good on you, Tom:
    …and 12 hours without anyone feeling the need to give a ‘thumbs up’, including me, even though I’m a ‘thumbs up’ aficionado. Has CP&S grown up? That’s one reason why I like The Imaginative Conservative blog introduced to us by Michael, where that function doesn’t signify.

    This blog would do well to follow that example. If approval and support (or not) of a post or comment is justified, it warrants a comment in return.
    ___
    …and I don’t say that just because I’m no longer able to ‘Like’ posts here anymore, for some computer reason. A coincidence, nothing more😦

  20. johnhenrycn says:

    Hey!

  21. johnhenrycn says:

    😦
    God bless.

  22. johnhenrycn says:

    …Mr Keyhole, Mr Maloney and Mr Meades.

  23. johnhenrycn says:

    …and also Mr Darling, God, who told everyone here that I was suicidal before he was banned.

  24. johnhenrycn says:

    …but I was baptised tomorrow, the Feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross (except that 14 September was on a Sunday that year) so henceforth, I shall be polite to everyone, even John A Kehoe, even though he reminds me the Father of my Country, also John A and also was a Gael:

    …but also a drunk, which I doubt Mr Kehoe has ever come close to being. I used to live down the road from his old family home:
    http://comfree.com/house-for-sale-kingston-ontario-594756#map
    Not John A Kehoe. The other Gael.

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