Pope Francis discusses synod with Eugenio Scalfari

but at the end of faster or slower paths,
all the divorced who ask will be admitted.


Posted by Rorate Caeli on 1st November:

Yes, he said it over the phone to his favorite journalist, Italian editor Eugenio Scalfari of La Repubblica (the Pope’s favorite newspaper), in a conversation on October 28, revealed by the latter in an editorial published this Sunday.

There is no reason to doubt its general accuracy. We are way past the time of doubting the general accuracy of the Scalfari quotes. Not now, that the papal interviews to Scalfari have been published on the Vatican website, that they have been occasionally published by the Vatican publishing house (LEV) itself – for instance, as part of the book to the right.


It was a direct quote by Scalfari, as the Pope explained to his dear Atheist friend what the Synod had decided (in fact as an answer to another editorial on the Synod Scalfari had published in Repubblica).
The quote is the following:


In the same phone conversation of the past Wednesday, he declared himself very interested in the article I had dedicated to him two Sundays beforehand. He asked me what I thought of the conclusions of the Synod on the family. I responded — as I had already written — that the compromise that the Synod had reached did not seem to take into account the changes had had taken place in the family in the past fifty years, [and] therefore pointing towards the recovery of the traditional family was an objective that was completely unthinkable. I added that the open Church willed by him finds herself before a family that is open both in its goodness and in its wickedness, and that it is this that the Church finds before her.
“It is true — Pope Francis answered — it is a truth and for that matter the family that is the basis of any society changes continuously, as all things change around us. We must not think that the family does not exist any longer, it will always exist, because ours is a social species, and the family is the support beam of sociability, but it cannot be avoided that the current family, open as you say, contains some positive aspects, and some negative ones. … The diverse opinion of the bishops is part of this modernity of the Church and of the diverse societies in which she operated, but the goal is the same, and for that which regards the admission of the divorced to the Sacraments, [it] confirms that this principle has been accepted by the Synod. This is bottom line result, the de facto appraisals are entrusted to the confessors, but at the end of faster or slower paths, all the divorced who ask will be admitted.” [Rorate translation, emphasis added]


Honestly, friends, is there any doubt that is how Francis, who has championed this notion from the first moment, sees this? Is there any doubt this is what will be (with some variation, some Pharisaic language) in the post-Synodal exhortation? Now what?…

(Editorial, La Repubblica, Nov. 1, 1015, p. 27 – PDF – 2nd page here)
(Source: La Repubblica – tip, image, pdf provider: Secretum meum mihi blog)

Damian Thompson from The Spectator has also picked up this story

Update from the Catholic Herald: Vatican spokesman, Fr Lombardi says that the article quoting Pope Francis by Eugenio Scalfari is ‘in no way reliable’.

And in an article for the National Catholic Register Edward Pentin asks:

why does the Pope continue to speak to someone such as Scalfari, and discuss such sensitive subjects with him, when he knows he is unreliable but likely to report his words without reference to a recording or transcript? 

Last but not least, an analysis from Steve Skojec over at One Peter Five


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6 Responses to Pope Francis discusses synod with Eugenio Scalfari

  1. Now what?
    God help the family.
    God help us all.

    “Statistics show that in the U.S., 50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second, and 74% of third
    marriages end in divorce.” (http://goo.gl/pmdcKA)

    So, are we now in a situation where the pope allows Communion for the divorce and remarried?

    Then what about the 67% of second marriages that end in divorce? The pope will then have to allow Communion for the divorced and remarried and divorced and remarried.

    Which brings us to the 74% of third marriages that end in divorce, requiring the pope to allow Communion for the divorced and remarried and divorced and remarried and divorced and remarried.

    Yes, indeed, God help us all.

  2. mmvc says:

    Fr Lombardi claims that the story is unreliable (see the ‘update’ beneath the post).
    As Gertrude said, all we can do is pray, pray and pray some more that the Truth will prevail.

  3. Feminine But Not Feminist says:

    Is it just me, or is the link to the “update” not working? :-/

  4. Toad says:

    “…as the Pope explained to his dear Atheist friend.. “</i.

    Spot the weasel word?
    Yes, right! – It's "dear."
    A pope with an Atheist friend? Bring on Armadillo ( or Armageddon) – whichever.

    Roarte Caeli would be well advised to leave the schoolboy sarcasm to JH – an acclaimed master of the craft.
    And God help us all, indeed.
    But maybe God’s inflicting all this misery on us because He loves us.

  5. mmvc says:

    Sorry about that. All fixed now, I hope.

  6. Michael says:

    From the comments on Damian Thompson’s article at The Spectator:

    Probably worth remembering that Eugenio Scalfari is 91 years old and doesn’t record his interviews while giving them. Rather, he just reports from what he remembers. The “quote” is not even a quote.

    Probably not wise (and definitely not helpful) to read too much into this.

    I agree with this commenter – there is in fact quite a bit of room for doubt here, as there always is with Scalfari (though God knows why the Pope keeps giving him interviews). Best to wait until the Exhortation I think.

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