A Call To Battle

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  1. An excellent video, full of truth. We can only hope it’s not been produced too late.

  2. ginnyfree says:

    Love this video. It is the third time I’ve seen it. Thank you for passing it along. It helps us all.

    If men would just be men, then women could simply be women. We’ve complicated that which naturally is simplicity itself. Simplicity is BTW, one of the Divine Attributes and by moving away from Simplicity, we move away from God. The cliche’ Keep It Simple is actually very sage advice.

    God bless. Ginnyfree.

  3. kathleen says:

    It is only in recent times that we have come to realise that the problem in the Western world today is not basically anything to do with the role of women anymore, but has switched sexes to become a real crisis and challenge for men, most particularly white men… and I would add white Christian men!

    In the space of approximately 50 years we have seen the sudden weakening and feminisation of the Liturgy in the Novus Ordo Mass, and our parishes suddenly overrun by lots of bustling and busy women! They often boss the priest around (and anyone else who confronts them), organise all the ‘readers’ and singing at Mass to suit their tastes (and every other parish event), run all over the Sanctuary… and eventually end up discouraging men and any aspiring young boy altar server from getting a look in.

    Of course I am talking about the extreme types of feminists in our midst – who would probably not admit to being ‘feminists’ at all! We all know that there are plenty of kind, good-hearted women who only want to serve the Church in any way that might help our over-worked priests, without wishing to stand out themselves. However, I think we have also all come across the bossy, strident type I have described above. Nothing could be more off-putting to men, especially young men, who desire to increase their faith and knowledge of Christ and find their own vocation in the Church, to find themselves pushed to one side by these formidable harridans.

    Among some excellent articles on the Catholic internet about this worrisome problem of men in the Church today, is this outstanding Apostolic Exhortation from the Bishop of Phoenix, +Thomas J. Olmstead who, after identifying the causes of the situation, confronts this crisis in a detailed, insightful way, suggests clear solutions to how we may start to halt the tide of male exodus from the Western Church. It is a long read, but well-worth taking the time to do so:

    http://www.intothebreach.net/into-the-breach/

    Michael also gave us a link a few days ago of a short pertinent article by Brendan O’Neill in The Spectator that tells these twisted male-hating feminists that the “male privilege” idea is nothing more than a fabricated myth!

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/i-hate-to-break-it-to-feminists-but-white-male-privilege-is-a-myth/

  4. We will have Catholic men of the kind described in this video when we have Catholic women who want there to be such men.

    Unfortunately, that will happen, I’m afraid, only when it is clear that the absence of these men is resulting in a rapidly disintegrating society.

    By that time, though, it may be too late.

  5. ginnyfree says:

    Kathleen, the problem is not the Mass. The problem is the sins of those who are responsible for it. The Mass is Holy. It is given us by God. All of the Rites of the Mass are Sacred in their essence. How people abuse His grace and ignore His instructions to render the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass into a mess is what you’re really upset about. But to call the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass names is a blasphemy. It has not been feminized or distorted in anyway. It is Holy and cannot be altered. This is one of my pet peeves. Folks bash the NO as if it is the cause of all the problems in the Church today. The problems in the Church today are caused by the same things problems in the Church were always caused by:sin. That is the problem. Sinners are entrusted with that which is Holy. God bless. Ginnyfree.

  6. kathleen says:

    Sorry, Ginny, but you are ignoring some evident facts.

    When the liturgy of the Mass has been changed to remove all male names or pronouns to be more inclusive (and you will find N.O. Masses where this has and is happening), with women distributing the Sacred Body and Blood of Our Lord in Holy Communion, bustling around the altar cleaning the holy vessels afterwards, whilst the priest sits down and lets them get on with it, when altar girls take over from boys (the best cradle for nurturing vocations to the priesthood)… and when you find women even giving out homilies in some reported cases, you are being dealt up a very feminised version of the Holy Mass.

    And when you get a total lack of reverence from both priests and laity, with priests making up their own words during the Liturgy at Mass, or girls doing liturgical dances around the altar in diaphanous tunics, or priests celebrating ‘clown’ Masses, or ones for homosexuals (c.f. the notorious Soho Masses), or public heresies that go in direct contrast to Church teaching in homilies from these Modernist priests… and when communicants are denied Holy Communion for wishing to kneel and receive on the tongue (as I talked about in a recent article)… plus a very long etcetera of all the abuses we hear about occurring nowadays, you are getting a distortion of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
    The faults are manmade of course, but they are there for all to see. To point out these abuses is a Christian duty.

    Yes, it is all down to the sins of Modernism and Indifferentism – and I would add a lot of self-pride too – but that does not mean it is any less real all the same. For all of us who love the Holy Mass and recognise its immense value, the very centre of Our Glorious Faith, such an intent to feminise and distort its celebration is a deep and festering wound in our innermost heart.

    P.S. I never said anything “blasphemous” about a Novus Ordo Mass celebrated in the canonically legitimate way; you made that one up!

  7. ginnyfree says:

    Kathleen you are missing my point and are presenting my views as if they are a defense of the abuses you list. I don’t make any excuse for any of the liturgical abuses you list. My point is that the actual Mass itself is never altered by the way in which a person performs it or by our own participation. No matter who many clowns appear to celebrate a particular rite on a particular day, it will never alter the actual rites themselves. Correct me if I misinterpret your point of view, but the impression I get and have gotten over time here at CP&S is that you don’t approve of the use of the NO at all and feel it is singularly responsible for the sins in the world today and that all would be well in the Church if we switched back the Tridentine Rite or as you prefer to call it the Traditional Latin Mass. Am I correct?
    One other thought. No matter how sinful a priest may be in his serving of the Altar, I cannot use his misdeeds as an excuse to render mine meaningless. My sins remain mine and his are his. Harping on the sins of others never lessens mine and it can increase them. Since I’m trying to live a sinless life, I need to be mindful of the ways self-righteousness can undermine my efforts. Self-righteous indignation over the sins of others whether those sins are real or simply my own imagination, looks very ugly to those who expect better from those of us who meet the Lamb in Mass and sup on His very flesh. They expect us to behave better for our experience. It is a disappointment to those persons we meet when all we can do is complain about how sloppy the service was or the music wasn’t the holiest available. If properly disposed, a soul can and should leave the Mass rejoicing. If after receiving the Holy Body and Blood of our Blessed Lord in the Eucharist at Mass, all we can do is grind our teeth over the liturgy and the Priest’s mistakes, then there really is something wrong in us that we need to rid ourselves of. God bless. Ginnyfree.

  8. kathleen says:

    Quite honestly dear Ginny, I think you are making yourself out to be rather ridiculous here! You are incredibly contentious, attacking me now (as you have done to others in the past) for no particular reason…. and then go on to say I miss your point! Well, what is your real point then? I thought we were talking about the way feminists have made life difficult in the Church for men, (and I mentioned how they have tried to take over the Sanctuary), and now I am told by you that I should take a feather out of your superior cap, and ignore all these abuses feminists and ultra-liberals have made against the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass!🙄

    You say:

    “My point is that the actual Mass itself is never altered by the way in which a person performs it or by our own participation.”

    ?????

    Wrong! Some Masses offered these days in direct disobedience to the rules and rubrics set out in Canon Law may very well be “altered” so much so that they may no longer even be valid Masses at all! Good and holy priests and bishops, and canon lawyers, have said as much themselves.
    Grace received “by our own participation” depends on our intent, concentration, attitude and demeanour. This is all greatly helped and assisted when the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is offered in a dignified and reverent way. (Unless of course one is so saintly that they can block out all the noise and distractions and remain serene and prayerful amidst the chaos!)

    You ask me about my opinion of the Novus Ordo Mass vs. the TLM.

    I remember a time when the TLM was the only Mass, and guided by my devout parents I grew to love it. When still only a little girl, the Novus Ordo Mass took over and the TLM was lost. To our family this was a great tragedy; the NO Mass appeared mundane and Protestant in comparison. It never filled me with the awe and wonder of the TLM. Both Masses are 100% valid (of course), but the sublime beauty, God-centredness majesty and reverence of the TLM makes it (in my opinion) vastly superior.
    So it was like the rediscovery of a hidden treasure when after all those years, in 1998, I was able to attend the TLM again at Gaming (Austria) at the Franciscan University of Steubenville campus there! Since that time there have been many other opportunities to go to this Holy Mass in UK, France and Spain, especially since the Motu Proprio, S.P., of Pope Benedict XVI in 2007. However, even now, I can only get to the TLM once (sometimes twice) a month; there just aren’t any others available where I am living. Therefore I attend the Novus Ordo Mass, and I go to the places where I know it is celebrated well and devoutly. (Just popping into an unknown church for Mass can be a risky business, as I was saying… you just don’t know what you might find there!!)
    Anyway, does that answer your question?

    “It is a disappointment to those persons we meet when all we can do is complain about how sloppy the service was… etc.”

    That may be so Ginny, which is why we should “rejoice” when we see good and beautiful things happening in our Church too… which we do on CP&S.
    Let me remind you though, that only the other day you were “complaining” (and IMO you were quite right to do so) about the unchaste way some women EMHCs dress for Holy Mass, possibly provoking the young men sitting in the congregation. It is called “fraternal correction”, and as a Catholic Christian we have a duty to point such things out.

    Oh… and God bless.😉

  9. ginnyfree says:

    Thank you for the reply Kathleen. I sincerely hope you find the Holy in Holy Mass again someday. God bless. Ginnyfree.

  10. kathleen says:

    Er, yes, thank you Ginny, I already have, so don’t worry about it.🙂
    This is why, unable to attend the beautiful TLM more than once or twice a month, I attend the churches where I know the Novus Ordo Mass is celebrated with great piety and reverence by good and holy priests.

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