Our Lady of Fatima, 1917-2017 – Why 100 Years Matters

One hundred years ago, during the year 1916, three young Portuguese children received three visits from an angel from Heaven to prepare them for six apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary that were to occur the following year. (We shall examine in more detail the angel’s visits to the children in a future post.) Mary was to bring the children messages (secrets) that they were to reveal in time to the whole world. In this fascinating article, Fr Richard Heilman looks into the background of why this coming anniversary of Our Lady of Fatima is of such great significance for us today.

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From ROMAN CATHOLIC MAN

POPE ST. LEO XIII’S VISION

Leo_XIII-241x300According to legend, exactly 33 years (span of our Lord’s life) to the day prior to the great Miracle of the Sun in Fatima, that is, on October 13, 1884, Pope Leo XIII had a remarkable vision. When the aged Pontiff had finished celebrating Mass in his private Vatican Chapel, attended by a few Cardinals and members of the Vatican staff, he suddenly stopped at the foot of the altar. He stood there for about 10 minutes, as if in a trance, his face ashen white. Then, going immediately from the Chapel to his office, he composed the prayer to St. Michael, with instructions it be said after all Low Masses everywhere. When asked what had happened, he explained that, as he was about to leave the foot of the altar, he suddenly heard voices – two voices, one kind and gentle, the other guttural and harsh. They seemed to come from near the tabernacle. As he listened, he heard the following conversation:

The guttural voice, the voice of Satan in his pride, boasted to Our Lord: “I can destroy your Church.”

The gentle voice of Our Lord: “You can? Then go ahead and do so.”

Satan: “To do so, I need more time and more power.”

Our Lord: “How much time? How much power?”

Satan: “75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service.”

Our Lord: “You have the time, you will have the power. Do with them what you will.”

33 YEARS LATER

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On Sunday May 13th, 1917, the children were pasturing their flock as usual at the Cova da Iria, which was about a mile from their homes. They were playing when suddenly a bright shaft of light pierced the air. The lady spoke to them and said: “Fear not! I will not harm you.” “Where are you from?” the children asked. “I am from heaven” the beautiful lady replied, gently raising her hand towards the distant horizon. “What do you want of me?”, Lucia asked. ” I came to ask you to come here for six consecutive months, on the thirteenth day, at this same hour. I will tell you later who I am and what I want.”

It was Mary’s final appearance, on Oct. 13, 1917 (exactly 33 years, to the day, after Pope Leo XIII’s vision), that became the most famous. An estimated 70,000 people were in attendance at the site, anticipating the Virgin’s final visit and with many fully expecting that she would work a great miracle. As everyone gazed upward, and saw that a silvery disc had emerged from behind clouds, they experienced what is known [as] a ‘sun miracle.’ Not everyone reported the same thing; some present claimed they saw the sun dance around the heavens; others said the sun zoomed toward Earth in a zigzag motion that caused them to fear that it might collide with our planet (or, more likely, burn it up). Some people reported seeing brilliant colors spin out of the sun in a psychedelic, pinwheel pattern. The whole event took about 10 minutes.

With these apparitions at Fatima, God asked for the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by the Pope in union with all of the bishops of the world. Our Lady of Fatima said that if the Consecration of Russia was done, Russia would be converted and there would be peace. However, if the Pope and the bishops did not obey the request, Our Lady said that Russia would spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church and of Holy Father, the martyrdom of the good and the annihilation of nations.

I find it interesting that Our Lady appeared in Fatima with these warnings exactly 100 years before the 500th anniversary of the Protestant revolt (1517-2017).

THE PRECEDENT OF 100 YEARS

At Rianjo, Spain in August 1931, Our Lord communicated to Sister Lucy His dissatisfaction with the Pope’s and the Catholic bishops’ failure to obey His command to consecrate Russia. He said:

Make it known to My ministers, given that they follow the example of the King of France in delaying the execution of My requests, they will follow him into misfortune. It is never too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary.

In another text Lucy wrote that Our Lord complained to her:

They did not wish to heed My request! Like the King of France they will repent of it, and they will do it, but it will be late. Russia will have already spread its errors in the world, provoking wars and persecutions against the Church. The Holy Father will have much to suffer.

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The reference by Jesus to the King of France’’s disobedience and punishment is as follows:

On June 17, 1689 the Sacred Heart of Jesus manifested to Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque His command to the King of France that the King was to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart. For 100 years to the day the Kings of France delayed, and did not obey.

So on June 17, 1789 the King of France was stripped of his legislative authority by the upstart Third Estate, and four years later the soldiers of the French Revolution executed the King of France as if he were a criminal. In 1793 France sent its King, Louis XVI, to the guillotine. He and his predecessors had failed to obey Our Lord’s request that France be consecrated to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and thus misfortune had befallen both the King and his country.

NOT JUST FRANCE

However, it would not be just France who would inherit this misfortune. It is more than interesting to note that the “Enlightenment Period,” generally known to have occurred from the 1680s to the 1790s, followed very closely to the same 100 year period of the initial request for the consecration of France to the French Revolution (see timeline here).

Central to the Enlightenment agenda was the assault on, what they held as, “religious superstition” and its replacement by rational religion, which is most commonly referred to as Deism. Deism is a heresy which holds that God became no more than the supreme intelligence or craftsman who had set the machine that was the world to run according to its own natural and scientifically predictable laws. In other words, God created it and then left it (It is believed that most of our founding fathers were Deists … a heresy which became entrenched around the time of the birth of our nation).

As our Lady was appearing in Fatima, it is important to note that in 1917, the same year the Communist Revolution in Russia was unleashed, Pope Benedict XV penned an encyclical entitled, Humani Generis Redemptionem. It would prove to be prophetic. In it he addressed an issue that had to be “looked upon as a matter of the greatest and most momentous concern.”

Up until 1917, Western Civilization had begun to drift away from the light of Gospel. The Reformation, the French Revolution and, as mentioned, the Russian Revolution, were highly instrumental in ushering in the era of secularism. Pope Benedict XV could not escape the conclusion that the world was changing. He wrote the following in the same encyclical:

“If on the other hand we examine the state of public and private morals, the constitutions and laws of nations, we shall find that there is a general disregard and forgetfulness of the supernatural, a gradual falling away from the strict standard of Christian virtue, and that men are slipping back more and more into the shameful practices of paganism.”

MID-POINT REVOLUTION

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With the return of paganism, comes an intolerance of Christianity. Indeed, the Church would produce more martyrs during the 20th century than in any other century. But as bad as things were in the world, the real test for the Church would come fifty years later during the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s. It is interesting to note that the eruption of this revolution occurred exactly 50 years later (the mid-point), when in 1967, “The Summer of Love” saw 100,000 people converged in the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood of San Francisco. In fact, this song by the Mamas and Papas, depicting the Summer of Love (San Francisco) was released on May 13, 1967, the 50th anniversary of our Lady’s first appearance at Fatima.

Although hippies also gathered in major cities across the U.S., Canada and Europe, San Francisco remained the center of the hippie movement. The city became even more of a melting pot of politics, music, drugs, creativity, and the total lack of sexual and social inhibition than it already was. As the hippie counterculture movement came further forward into public awareness, the activities centered therein became a defining moment of the 1960s, causing numerous ‘ordinary citizens’ to begin questioning everything and anything about them and their environment as a result.

Similar to that of the Reformation in 1517, scores of Catholics would leave the Church. Priestly and religious vocations would dry up. Mass attendance would sharply decline. Catholic clergy and laity would no longer be on the same page in terms of belief and behavior. And as for many church-goers that would remain, their morals and lifestyle would prove to be comparable to non-Catholics.

CONTRACEPTION IS KEY

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Running concurrently to the message of Fatima and the explosion of the sexual revolution at the 50 year mark, was the advent of contraception. Margaret Sanger opened the first birth control clinic in 1916, just as the angel first appeared to the children in Fatima. It was in the 1965 case of Griswold v. Connecticut, that the Supreme Court would strike down state laws prohibiting contraception.

In 1968, Pope Paul VI would intervene with the famous encyclical, Humanae Vitae, but in Confessionals around the world, priests were told to instruct penitents to allow their conscience to override the teachings of the Church. This had ramifications that would extend beyond contraception, in that Catholics would now find an open door to let their conscience override any of the teachings of the Church.

SMOKE OF SATAN

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By 1972, Pope Paul VI recognized this explosion of evil in these times. In fact, on June 29, 1972 Pope Paul VI confirmed just that when he addressed his audience. He said, “It is as if from some mysterious crack, no, it is not mysterious, from some crack the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God.”

The following year the infamous case of Roe v. Wade would legalize abortion in all states. In the very same year, on the anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun, on October 13, 1973, Our Lady of Akita, in an approved apparition in Japan, took this point further and gave us some idea how this “smoke” would take effect. She said, “The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops…the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.”

This is exactly what happened. In the years following the Council of Vatican II, the Deists among the clergy had gained such a foothold that they felt they were given carte blanche to completely revamp the Church. And so, the demolition of anything that points to the supernatural began. This has brought great division among clergy and laity … possibly not as much seen since the time of the Arian heresy of the 4th century.

Since the time of the French Revolution, Deists have called for this “revamping” or “updating” (Aggiornamento) … out with old, and in with the new. And so, the more common name given to them today is to say they are “modernists.” The heresy of Modernism holds that the Church must move with the cultural trends and changes of the times. Most modernists then hold that the Enlightenment (rejection of the supernatural) is a trend in which the Church must follow. However, I gave them another title I felt even more fitting …

STEALTH ARIANS

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Not too long ago, I wrote an article which posited that we are facing a monumental heresy in our times that equals or surpasses the greatest heresy of all times, which was Arianism. While Arianism openly denied the divinity of Christ, I called this modern heresy “Stealth Arianism.” St. John says, “Children, let us love not in word or speech but in deed and truth” (1 John 3:18). While not many today openly deny the divinity of Christ by their words, far too many deny His divinity by their actions.

“Over the past 50 years,” I wrote, “the Stealth Arians have done everything within their power to remove from our lived experience of Catholicism anything that would point to the divinity of Christ, and the supernatural quality of our faith. Everything has been stripped from our churches – sacred art, sacred architecture, sacred music, and the sacred elements of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass – and we are left in the barren desert of the banal. It is no wonder many Catholics think nothing of approaching the Most Holy Eucharist dressed in a t-shirt, shorts, and flip-flops, and grabbing the host like they’re reaching into a bag of chips. As Flannery O’Connor said, ‘If it’s a symbol, to hell with it.’ It’s more surprising that these individuals even bother to attend Mass at all.”

The latest grim Pew Research findings have been released, and Fr. Dwight Longenecker seems to double down on this idea in his recent article: “Why Are The Nones Leaving Religion.” You can read the whole thing over there, but this is the heart of the article …

People are leaving religion in droves because it’s not religion anymore.

It’s become a charity with meetings on Sundays, and the problem is modernism. Modernism is the idea that the supernatural is out of date and unbelievable. The “de-mythologizers” tried to weed out all the miracles and supernatural elements from the gospels. For the last hundred years their influence has gained in seminaries and pulpits across the world.

Tales of the supernatural had to be removed. They didn’t fit with the modern world. Doctrines about devils and angels, heaven and hell had to be quietly excised from the faith because they were primitive and medieval and incredible to modern folk. Transubstantiation? A pious medieval philosophical explanation of what we all know is really symbolic. Supernatural revelation? No. Religion is all man made. Miracles? We know they don’t really happen.

Religious leaders–and I mean Catholics and Protestants alike–turned the Christian religion into an organization that does good works. Instead of the wondrous bread of heaven they were content to hand out Wonder Bread. Instead of the feeding of the five thousand they spoke about the “real miracle” being the fact that everyone shared their lunch.

All the religious talk stayed in place but it was re-interpreted. Father Wooly and Pastor Fuzzy proclaimed on Easter Day, “Alleluia! Christ is Risen!” but what they meant was “in some way the wonderful teachings of Jesus continued to be believed by his faithful followers. They said every Sunday that they believed in the Virgin Birth but what they meant was that “Mary was a very nice girl who was very courageous as she went through with her crisis pregnancy.” And so forth. And so on.

For Catholics? The necessity of the sacraments and a life of repentance and faith? Nah.

You only had to go to Mass if you really wanted to. Lay people who were married were just as able to be holy as priests and nuns. Confession? That’s only for people with low self esteem. Marriage? We can be flexible on that. It’s all about mercy after all.

Well, people aren’t dumb.

They concluded that if religion was really only about peace and justice and social work, then why did one have to get up early and go to church and sing dreary hymns and listen to a long, badly prepared homily by an uncomfortably over fed windbag? Why go to church anyway? If it was really only about social work, then why the early weekend pep talk with music? Why not sleep in?

The unfortunate reality is that the modern campaign of militant secular indoctrination (rejecting the supernatural) has been so severe that only a dwindling remnant remains who believes or trusts in God’s supernatural power. As a result, the spiritual hearts of many are reduced to the size of a thimble, only capable of receiving a few meager drops, if any, from the wellspring of God’s graces (Rev 22:1-2). In spiritual terms, this makes us puny and scrawny rather than strong and powerful mighty warriors ready to confront the powers of darkness in the heavenly realm. With so many modernized Christians ignoring the reality of grace, it is no wonder that evil is thriving in our day.

In speaking of the need for a New Evangelization, Pope Benedict XVI said, “the true problem of our times is the ‘Crisis of God,’ the absence of God, disguised by an empty religiosity” … a kind of lukewarm, going through the motions of one’s faith, which ends up collapsing completely. The terrible consequence of this war on the supernatural is seen in the epidemic of spiritual sloth in our times — hearts deadened to the Divine Life of God.

HOW DO WE RECLAIM SURRENDERED GROUND?

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I don’t know about you, but I believe there is enough here to tell us that we must act NOW. Who knows what 2017 will bring (I believe it may be a chastisement), but I want to be found doing something to counteract this 100 year demonic campaign to reject the supernatural … something substantial that reclaims *A HUGE AMOUNT* of surrendered ground!! Sure, there are long-term strategies that are important and necessary, but I believe there are immediate steps we can take to expose our people to “reverence” and “the sacred” … assisting them to, once again, believe in the supernatural.

Please read the rest of this excellent article at ROMAN CATHOLIC MAN to find out what Fr Heilman is doing about it

 

 

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39 Responses to Our Lady of Fatima, 1917-2017 – Why 100 Years Matters

  1. Robert says:

    Thank you
    Aquinas points out that the Creator is evidenced by miracles. The Dance of the Sun is one but another happened that proved this was no illusion. This was the rain, the mud the soaking wet angry crowd. After the Dance of the Sun the ground was Dry, the cloths dry! “..suddenly and completely dry, as well as the wet and muddy ground ..”
    Miracles reveal God as the Creator acting outside of and beyond scientific Laws!
    The growth of worldly wisdom and Pride (always a sign of the Devil sic Gay Pride) and the amnesia for sins of the flesh.
    The background in Portugal is also important at that time. You can never look to closely at Fatima!

  2. “Religious leaders–and I mean Catholics and Protestants alike–turned the Christian religion into an organization that does good works. Instead of the wondrous bread of heaven they were content to hand out Wonder Bread.” – From the article

    And because we faithful Catholics put up with this nonsense, many of us are convinced, we are being punished with the present pontificate, filled with the confused and confusing opinions of a pope who often doesn’t seem to know what he’s talking about. (A pope’s opinions, at a press conference or elsewhere, have nothing to do with the Doctrine of Papal Infallibility. See the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 891: “The Roman Pontiff, head of the college of bishops, enjoys this infallibility in virtue of his office, when, as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful…he proclaims by a definitive act a doctrine pertaining to faith or morals.”)

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  4. toadspittle says:

    Wonderful stuff, with enough Ooo-er numerology to keep Roger happy for a month of miraculous Sundays.
    Toad will also try his hand at prophecy: More trouble ahead during 2017. It will involve Israel and Muslims. Thousands of people will go to Fatima, and see sights they will regard as extraordinary. Some will claim they are miraculous. One of these will be Roger.
    In the USA, many people will be very unhappy with the result of the presidential election.
    Just you see. You read it here first!
    “Pope Benedict XVI said, “the true problem of our times is the ‘Crisis of God,’ the absence of God, disguised by an empty religiosity” “
    …Then he quit.

  5. johnhenrycn says:

    This essay by Fr Heilman is replete with numerological symbolism (or superstitions if you attend the Church of Toad), but it has cured me (almost) of my minor phobia concerning the number 13, being the day in October, 1917 when the Miracle of the Sun occurred. Still, I do not think numerology is something Catholics should fiddle with, seeing as it is a subset of divination.

    Concerning that “so-called” (pace our selfsame Toad) miracle, can anyone explain why, to the best of my limited knowledge, none of the 70,000 or so witnesses to that event has ever come forward to say that he/she did not see anything unusual in that field that day? (Please be honest, whatever side of the fence you are on.) Can I also ask whether there is any record of scientifically proven, or historically accepted, mass psychosis involving thousands of people at one particular event? The thrust of my questions is this: If scores of thousands of people say they witnessed an unexplainable event, how can we gainsay their testimony unless we can prove mass psychosis? If we cannot so prove, are we not in grave danger of civilizational collapse if we ignore what they saw? Look around our world today and deny that we are on a precipice, if you can.

    The photo introducing this post: first of all, it confirms my belief that black and white photography is more honest than colour, and secondly – assuming that it is indeed a photograph taken on that day in that field, which I believe it is, and that it is unstaged (absolutely preposterous to think otherwise) – then it is documentary proof that the people shown it are witnessing something utterly amazing.

    I shall perhaps continue my wise (or not) ruminations on this important subject later.

  6. johnhenrycn says:

    “…we are being punished with the present pontificate…”

    Robert John Bennett: You really must stop dissing Pope Francis in the brutal way that you do. He is your pope, is he not? He may not be your favourite pope, but he is still your pope. Even though you’ve been a devout Catholic far longer than I have, my judgements of him seem to be a lot more Catholic than yours.

  7. toadspittle says:

    “….some present claimed they saw the sun dance around the heavens; others said the sun zoomed toward Earth in a zigzag motion that caused them to fear that it might collide with our planet (or, more likely, burn it up). Some people reported seeing brilliant colors spin out of the sun in a psychedelic, pinwheel pattern. The whole event took about 10 minutes.”
    The sun, it seems, did all manner of different things simultaneously. Hmm. All depended on how the people there saw it, I suppose.

  8. johnhenrycn says:

    “Wonderful stuff, with enough Ooo-er numerology to keep Roger happy…”

    My *friend* Toad’s comment at 16:45 did not appear until after mine at 19:24, but it’s nice to see we are on the same exact wavelength for once – insofar as Fr Heilman’s ouija board proclivity is concerned.

  9. toadspittle says:

    “Can I also ask whether there is any record of scientifically proven, or historically accepted, mass psychosis involving thousands of people at one particular event? “
    There cannot be. No such thing could ever be “proved,” scientifically – or in any other fashion. (Nor “disproved, of course.)
    “Look around our world today and deny that we are on a precipice, if you can.”
    Undeniable. But then, is it worse now than World Wars 1 and 2? The Stalinist massacres? The Holocaust? The Cuban missile crises? Vietnam?
    However, I do agree things are generally getting worse century by century, because people are congenitally insane, and each century there are more and more people on earth doing more and more insane things, and getting more and more scientifically skilled at it. The only way to restore sanity to planet earth is to wipe out the human race. And we are working dutifully on that.

  10. Michael says:

    johnhenry @ 19:24:

    Very good points all. Another book recommendation, on this topic:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Catholic-Replies-Professor-Dawkins/dp/1871217709/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1456782095&sr=1-1&keywords=thomas+crean

    or in another edition:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/God-No-Delusion-Refutation-Richard/dp/158617231X/ref=pd_cp_14_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0EZYJ3TG9B7MNJPNKGSC

    Chapter 3 on miracles goes over Fatima in some detail, and discusses many of the points you raise.

  11. kathleen says:

    JH @ 19:24

    “can anyone explain why, to the best of my limited knowledge, none of the 70,000 or so witnesses to that event has ever come forward to say that he/she did not see anything unusual in that field that day?”

    I believe it is because they cannot, JH ! Absolutely everyone, all 70.000 witnesses, saw the miracle, though their descriptions differed slightly. Even the most cynical atheist present, hoping to be able to prove how the whole thing was a hoax of some stupid, ignorant and gullible peasants, witnessed the miracle of the sun, and were shocked to the core of their being by it! (Atheists had come in fairly large numbers to Fatima on 13th October 1917.) Some of the most honest of these atheists, who happened to be also journalists, wrote detailed descriptions of the experience. Perhaps precisely because they were unbelievers, their testimony bears a lot of weight.

    In fact there were many more than 70.000 people who saw this miraculous event, for all those in the surrounding district were also witnesses! How could they (many who probably knew nothing about the visions occurring at Fatima, or who were uninterested in them) be influenced by ‘suggestion’ or ‘mass hysteria’, as some cynics like to say?

    In answer to your following question, AFAIK there has never been a mass psychosis involving believers and non-believers (together) where there has been such total consensus on what took place before their eyes!
    No, this was no mass illusion or prefigurement of the imagination, and as you conclude, we should therefore take good note of what happened at Fatima.

    Yes, I think this first black and white photo illustrating the article was one of the photos that appeared in the Portuguese press the day after the miracle.

    The Miracle of the Sun occurred, through the intercession of Our Lady, to give credence to the messages she had imparted to the little visionaries.
    And those messages?
    Warnings and prophecies to help save her beloved ‘children’ from damnation, where she told the visionaries that so many were heading.
    And a re-affirmation of all the doctrines and dogmas that the Catholic Church has always taught!

    P.S. Wish I could still give your 19:24 a ‘like’ tick JH.😉

  12. Robert says:

    Background:
    Portugal Revolution 1910. Republic declared of high ranking freemasons. Church banned from society, reduced to silence. persecuted in every way. 1911 Church and State separation, anticlerical legislation passed. Divorce law passed, cremation , secularisation of cemeteries, abolition of religious oath, suppression of religious teaching in schools, prohibition of wearing the cassock etc..
    “..
    Yet through the strong leadership of Saint Pius X, the Portuguese Church was able to retain its faith, untainted, and remain united in the midst of this fierce persecution
    ..”
    The Portuguese faithful turned to the Rosary.
    By August 1917 the Portuguese anti-religious secular press, ensured that the whole country knew about Fatima, biased and negative reports were circulated.
    The response of the children was prayer and penance!
    “..The proclamation of a public miracle caused the most intense speculation throughout Portugal, and the journalist Avelino de Almeida, published a satirical article on the whole business in the anti-religious newspaper O Seculo. People from other parts of the country descended, in their tens of thousands, on the Cova, despite the terrible storm that lashed the mountain country around Fatima, on the eve of the 13th. Many pilgrims went barefooted, reciting the rosary as they went, all crowding into the area around the Cova, as by midmorning the weather again turned bad and heavy rain began to fall ..”

  13. johnhenrycn says:

    The three children…how could they have had knowledge of the events in Russia occurring whilst they saw their visions? The Communist Revolution began in February, 1917 and culminated in October,1917. The first Fatima revelation occurred on 13 May that year, and then the Russian vision on 13 October 1917 (please correct me if I am wrong); so how could three children in a Portugal outback without radio or television know about an event occurring one week before in Russia?

  14. bamacnz says:

    Kathleen,

    One thing , I feel , that we can do is join in the prayer assault explained in this link …. God Bless this good Cardinal

    http://www.catholicaction.org/?utm_campaign=rw_mar116_remnd&utm_medium=email&utm_source=catholicaction

    Am not too savy with computer use so hope that the link works

  15. johnhenrycn says:

    My paternal grandfather, a White Guard Finn who fought the Red Guard Finns in 1918, was so sad when his ancestral home village bearing his name (not johnhenry) near the shores of Lake Ladoga was ceded (during WW2) to the Communists, and which has remained in Russian hands ever since. His Canadian grave bears this military symbol, which had nothing to do with Nazis when he earned it in 1918:

    “After my grandfather died, my grandmother and my mother and we children moved to Tikkala and lived there all the year round from 1914 to the end of 1919…To me, my life started at Tikkala. I remember very well indeed the end of the world that came with the Russian Revolution.”

    I’m surprised, not being able to find that quotation on Google. It’s a verbatim one from page 8 of The Year of the Bull” (Peter Owen Publishers, 73 Kenway Road, London, SW5 0RE) an autobiographical novel by Oscar Parland (no relation).

  16. johnhenrycn says:

    We’re discussing the consecration of Russia, which is why this (^) anecdote seems germane.

  17. bamacnz says:

    johnhenry,

    I thought that we were discussing Our Blessed Lady’s apparition at Fatima and the message that she gave there … I know that you were right — she did indeed ask for the Consecration of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart ( which has never been done the way that She asked for it to be done ) but there was more to her message than that ….. did our Holy Mother not ask for a greater love and reverence towards her Divine son present in the Holy Eucharist and did she not ask us to use the powerful weapon of the Holy Rosary as a defense against the attacks of Satan on Holy Mother Church?.
    In the days before we lost the general celebration everywhere of the reverent Latin Mass ( something this old girl thought that we would never lose!) we used to say prayers with Father as he knelt at the foot of the Altar , for the conversion of the world and for the safety of Holy Mother Church and for vocations to the priesthood … how much we have lost !
    God Bless

  18. toadspittle says:

    “can anyone explain why, to the best of my limited knowledge, none of the 70,000 or so witnesses to that event has ever come forward to say that he/she did not see anything unusual in that field that day?”
    Fatima was a unique event. Everyone who went there expected to see something extraordinary, even- the Atheists, (who expected to see a lot of people thinking they were seeing a miracle) Shame to go all that way and see nothing unusual, Nobody was disappointed. .
    However, I suspect this kind of event actually has done the reputation of the Church more harm than good. True or not, there’s a whiff of the conjuring trick about it. Smoke and mirrors, clouds, sun and rain. . Still, as Kathleen points out, we all see what we want, and need – to see.
    And not only at Fatima, but every day, everywhere – on TV, in church, in the supermarket, and in the newspapers. Possibly we all need to constantly deceive ourselves – to make life less intolerable. La Rochefoucauld once said, “Death, like the sun, cannot be looked at directly.” I agree, but think he’d have been more accurate to say “Life,” rather than “Death.”

    (Yes, yes, very philosophical, Toad. Old idiot. Now shut up.)

  19. kathleen says:

    Toad @ 6:00

    “Still, as Kathleen points out, we all see what we want, and need – to see.”

    ‘Kathleen’ pointed out no such thing, Toad, and you know it.

    The atheists who described what they saw that October day in Fatima were bewildered and amazed; they thought nothing was going to happen. At least they had the guts to say so.
    I wonder how Toad would have reacted had he been there…. Hmmm.

    However as you carry on with your pantomime of life, mocking God and His Church, whilst refusing His Way, Truth and Life (together with His Love and Mercy), remember that your hourglass (re the other thread) is running out fast now!!

  20. Robert says:

    Kathleen @ 8.10
    Fatima also set running an Hourglass for the Church! With also the question of Satan’s sifting of the Church.
    Heaven made the Catholic Church Popes and hierarchy personally and directly responsible for the Conversion of Russia from 1960 onwards (covers the Cold War and nuclear arms race). The Rosary and the Scapular.
    Today Russia publically opposes the beastility Anti Christian Laws of what once was Christendom. The Apostacy (Rebellion) of Christendom is evidenced in these beastility Laws) .In other words the hourglass given to Rome has now passed.

    What are the consequences of Disobedience?
    What is the meaning of IN THE END My Immaculate Heart will Triumph?
    What Fatima does is publically lay the blame with Rome and its open disobedience since 1960.

    Kathleen is right “However as you carry on with your pantomime of life, mocking God and His Church, whilst refusing His Way, Truth and Life (together with His Love and Mercy), remember that your hourglass (re the other thread) is running out fast now!!”

  21. toadspittle says:

    “‘“Still, as Kathleen points out, we all see what we want, and need – to see.”
    Kathleen’ pointed out no such thing, Toad, and you know it.”

    What I meant, Kathleen, was that Catholics see Catholicism. Muslims see Islam, Methodists see Methodism, and so on – throughout the several thousand varieties of religion currently operating on Earth. And none of them “sees” truth in the others.

    ..Surely, that’s not deniable in any coherent fashion?

  22. toadspittle says:

    Not am I personally immune to this deficiency.
    Just as Catholics, Muggletonians, Mormons and Hindus are invariably blinkered in their beliefs (virtually always those of their parents – odd coincidence that, isn’t it?) …so Toad is now a blinkered Agnostic, who finds it near impossible to see any other way of looking at things without employing the deepest scepticism.
    But he does at least try.

  23. kathleen says:

    “What I meant, Kathleen, was that Catholics see Catholicism. Muslims see Islam, Methodists see Methodism, and so on – throughout the several thousand varieties of religion currently operating on Earth. And none of them “sees” truth in the others.”

    Have to cook lunch now, Toad, so have to be quick…

    This is a topic you have brought up time and time again, and have had countless arguments given you for the Catholic Church’s defence as the True Faith. Have none of our patient and long-suffering commenters (thinking esp. of Michael here) not managed to get through to you either in explaining the reasons for this diversity of beliefs? Incredible!

    Just start at the beginning. Look at the history of Mankind and the moment God made his pact with Abraham. See how He guided His people through their tumultuous history of faith and rebellion (but never abandoning them) to prepare them for the coming of His Son among them, the Messiah, Whom He had promised. Then follow the amazing, reasoned and logical apologetics for Christianity. There is such enormous and overwhelming evidence for belief that Our Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God made Man, and that the Catholic Church is the One True Church founded by Our Saviour on the rock of His first Vicar, Peter, and the unbroken line of his successors. The other Christian churches all protested (hence the name of Protestantism) some doctrine or teaching, and left the fold to make up, or deny, their own interpretation of the Word of God.

    Must go…

  24. Robert says:

    What are the consequences of Disobedience and what can we expect?
    Fatima message July 13 1917
    “To prevent this I come to ask the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart AND the Communion of reparation on the Five First Saturdays. If they listen to my request, Russia will be converted and there will be peace. If not, she will scatter her errors through the world provoking wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated.”

    At the parish church, Jacinta was crying and Our Lady appeared to her: “Why are you crying?” Jacinta answered: “Because I do not know how to meditate on the mysteries of the Rosary.” Our Lady took her back in time to see first hand all the mysteries of the Rosary

  25. Robert says:

    The article correctly links Leo XIII and his encyclicals to Fatima.
    The best source of reference to the errors of Russia (which didn’t originate in Russia of course) were set out in Leo XIII encyclcals.
    Lourdes refered to the Papacy and the Dogma of the Immaculate Conception.
    Fatima again refers to the Papacy with the word Immaculate.
    Leo XIII “On the Evils Affecting Modern Society” attacks on the Christian family ;the authority of the father and mother;Christian education;The indissolubility of the marriage sacrament
    “Socialism, Communism, Nihilism”
    the natural union of man and woman they hold in scorn; They have declared war on the Catholic Church; reject revelation and subvert supernatural order.
    “On The Evils Affecting Modern Society”.
    Governments have been organized without God ; the very Author and Redeemer of mankind has been forced slowly and gradually to withdraw from the scheme of studies at universities, colleges, and high schools, as well as from all the practical working of public life
    “The Study of Scholastic Philosophy”
    “Christian Marriage”
    “Freemasonry”
    ultimate purpose forces itself into view, namely, the utter overthrow of that whole religious and political order of the world which the Christian teaching has produced, the substitution of a new state of things in accordance with their ideas, of which the foundations and laws shall be drawn from mere Naturalism

  26. toadspittle says:

    “This is a topic you have brought up time and time again, and have had countless arguments given you for the Catholic Church’s defence as the True Faith.”
    Yes, Kathleen, I know – but none of the arguments are even remotely, logically convincing. So, Toad plods stoically, gloomily, (and logically) on.
    “Just start at the beginning. Look at the history of Mankind and the moment God made his pact with Abraham. See how He guided His people through their tumultuous history of faith and rebellion (but never abandoning them) to prepare them for the coming of His Son among them, the Messiah, Whom He had promised.”
    In my mind, Kathleen, that in itself is a good reason for a healthy dose of scepticism, or so I’d suggest. The utter horribleness of the Old Testament – all porno sex and violence* and God constantly urging, and helping, the Jews to ruthlessly slaughter their enemies – does not constitute a promising start for a Religion of Brotherly Love on Planet Earth.
    I’ve mentioned all this before, (yawn, yawn -cracked record) only to be briskly scolded, “Oh, Toad! All that was long ago – before Jesus! God is much nicer and kinder these days! All that pro-Jewish nastiness was made irrelevant! ” And yet now you regurgitate it all again, and say it somehow matters deeply to Christians – who hated and persecuted the poor old Jews for centuries. We all know that.
    God may not have “abandoned” the Jews, as you point out – but the Christians certainly did, and did a good deal more besides.
    OK. But what’s all this got to do with Fatima, in any case? And it’s nuts to suggest the history of Mankind was “the beginning,” which started with the Jews. Surely the Egyptians came before them – or why were the Jews and Moses working for them as slaves?

    *Fun to read, though, it must be said. Even if, among the fornication, it did justify slavery, and mass murder, and brutal conquest of other nearby nations. (And still does in Israel – to this day. As we know.)
    I’d say “God Bless.” like others do.
    …But it would sound decidedly phoney.

  27. toadspittle says:

    “Have none of our patient and long-suffering commenters (thinking esp. of Michael here) not managed to get through to you either in explaining the reasons for this diversity of beliefs? Incredible!”
    Who cares what the reasons for “the diversity of beliefs” are, Kathleen? The reasons are totally irrelevant. Christianity, like everything, has evolved and changed. Now another significant change is rapidly evolving in Catholicism. These things happen, and we just have to live with the consequences, or deal with them as best we can.
    Just as the fact of your being a Catholic is the consequence of your parents both being so – and you never apparently thought to doubt it. That’s undeniable, too. But you will never admit that’s the basic reason and I can’t blame you. I might not have doubted stuff I was taught myself, if I hadn’t considered things a bit – and come to a different conclusion.
    …In which I still might be wrong. of course. So I go on searching.

  28. toadspittle says:

    I’m actually sorry to have been so hard on CP&S, these days. What with Francis On The Plane, and the Dreaded Masons In The Vatican, and all – Toad relentlessly adding his two cents worth is clearly somewhat of a luxury.
    And it was brave and generous of you to run the two comments above, fatuous and pompous though I now, on reflection, see them as being. (horrible sentence!)
    …And I appreciate it.

  29. kathleen says:

    Toad @ 17:17

    “none of the arguments are even remotely, logically convincing”

    I have neither the time nor the desire to go through all this all over again. You want ‘faith’ dished up to you on a platter, and that is truly impossible. Just a few words that might help though…

    Faith is a gift from God, but the man who seeks God and Truth with “a humble and contrite heart” will eventually find what his heart is yearning for. “Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you” (Matthew 7:7).

    If a man puts constant obstacles in the way of faith – and these obstacles can be of various types, but they all include the sin of pride (a sin we all struggle against to some degree), and a clinging to those ‘pet sins’ that he doesn’t really want to let go of – then he shall constantly find himself coming up against a brick wall.
    It is surprising how a man in search of God will so often deceive himself, asking in vain, “where is God?”, as if the fault lies without him, when in reality the fault lies within, by his lying to himself so he can cling to his vices.*

    (* By the way, on this point, St Augustine is a perfect example of this ‘obstacle’ he kept coming up against. He could not let go of his sexual incontinence for a long time, but his final victory over this sin was of such great merit that it eventually lead him on to become one of the greatest of all saints.)

    Sorry my above advice at 13:11 was of no help; it was written in a great hurry.
    You got a few things wrong there as well, by the way… I did not say the history of Mankind started with the Jews – you misunderstood.

    Nor is the Old Testament “horrible”; it is the history of Man from Adam and Eve to the Birth of Christ. It relates how God’s Chosen People with all their sins, weaknesses, doubts, betrayals and sufferings, as well as their heroism, hopes, longings and holy prophets, had put their trust in God’s promise of a Saviour Who would be born among them. The faith of the Israelites had a few corners that needed knocking off, as Our Lord Jesus Christ told His disciples: “Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill” (Matthew 5:17). God, of course, is One and the Same always and forever.

    Christianity has only “evolved” (not “changed”) in the sense that over time, and especially in the first centuries of our era through the early Church Fathers, it has grown to a greater understanding and fulfillment.
    In fact it is quite astonishing to read the writings of the very early saints and discover how well they speak to us today. Revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle in the first century A.D.

  30. toadspittle says:

    “You (Toad) want ‘faith’ dished up to you on a platter,”
    No I don’t. Very far from it. I must work out my own destiny. Like everyone.
    “Faith is a gift from God, but the man who seeks God and Truth with “a humble and contrite heart” will eventually find what his heart is yearning for. “
    I seem to recall reading a curiously similar quotation from the Koran. Let us suppose that’s the case, anyway – that the Koran does contain similar lines to this. Probably find the like in “The Book of Mormon,” too. And some Hindu and Druid volumes, for all I know. Religious texts tend to go in that sort of sentiment, don’t they?.
    That being so, what are we to make of it? …That it’s only true when applied to Catholicism? Very odd.

  31. toadspittle says:

    Reading the exchanges above, and considering what Bamacnz said on another “thread” the point seems to me, that if the is a God at all – in any coherent sense – He/She must be truly catholic, (small ‘c’) that is to say, universally available to every human that has ever lived. The Catholic Church always seemed in the past (to me, when very young) to claim a monopoly of truth, which didn’t seem either Christian or morally right – “Only Catholics can go to Heaven? That’s just not fair!” we said as boys. But it also seems that today things are changing. We shall see.

  32. kathleen says:

    Toad @ 21:28 yesterday

    Me: “You (Toad) want ‘faith’ dished up to you on a platter,”
    Toad: “No I don’t. Very far from it. I must work out my own destiny. Like everyone.

    Exactly! And you have all the ‘tools’ at your disposal to do so.
    That is: to ‘find God’ and embrace His Divine Law, “to love, honour and serve Him in this world”*, that will eventually lead you to the destiny He has prepared for us, “to be happy with Him forever in the next”* if you truly, truly desire it.
    (* From the ‘Penny Catechism’ that you will surely remember!)

    “a humble and contrite heart”

    Toad, these words are taken from Psalm 51.
    Forget the Koran! It may contain some good and holy verses among its many cruel and violent ones inciting its followers to “kill the infidel”, but Islam was originally no more than a Christian heresy invented by a warlord. As you know, Mohammad was influenced by Arian (heretical) monks living in the desert with whom he stayed. His success in spreading his heretical faith was, according to St Thomas Aquinas, because “Islam appealed to ignorant, brutish, carnal men and spread not by the power of its arguments or divine grace but by the power of the sword.”

    Read, Toad, read! Read the voluminous works available on Catholic apologetics and the writings of the saints like Aquinas’s famous Summa (if your failing eyesight will allow it) instead of the dubious works of renown authors who have criticised and mocked Christianity. You already know their side of the story – time to hear the other side! It will do your soul the world of good.
    (For instance, St Ignatius of Loyola was converted through reading the lives of saints as he lay confined to a bed, convalescing from a leg wound after a battle!)

    In your comment this morning you say “The Catholic Church always seemed in the past (to me, when very young) to claim a monopoly of truth, which didn’t seem either Christian or morally right
    How so, if this is what Our Lord Himself said to Peter? The rebellious Christians who left the Church Our Lord founded did so of their own free will.

    The Catholic Church (from which all the other Christian ‘churches’ derive) is the only one to have been given the promise of Our Saviour to never err in its teachings. It contains the FULLNESS of truth – the others do not – although the Catholic Church recognises that other churches retain many of the basic truths revealed to us by God.

    Toad, you need to clear your head of all the “rubbish” you have gathered over the years that is obstructing your path to God. It is true that all men are sinners, and Catholics are often, very often, no better than anyone else… but it is only within the Catholic Church that we have all the means to save our souls through the loving Mercy and Goodness of God.

    And to get back to the topic of this article from which we have departed, the events leading up to Fatima, and the wonderful apparitions of Our Blessed Lady there, are a living confirmation of all the truths our Glorious Faith has revealed to us.

  33. toadspittle says:

    “Forget the Koran!”
    I haven’t the mildest interest in the Koran, Kathleen. I simply pointed out that all those religious boos come up with the same stuff. Like you, I’m weary of all this too-ing and fro-ing. We are light years apart, and I regret to say we are likely to stay that way. I won’t bother enumerating why again, right now, except to say the the idea of Hell defies logic.. Have a nice evening.
    (P.S. I remembered today that Bamacnz was/is a friend of Joyful. I wonder if she knows what’s up with our old friend? I miss her.)

  34. Michael says:

    A 1732 Chris

  35. bamacnz says:

    Toad,
    I was indeed a friend of J.P but am sorry that I can’t tell you anything about her after she faded from her blog site . I asked Kiwi A but he did not know anything either…. I sent J P a couple of emails to her personal email box but never heard back … have been praying that all is well with her whatever.
    Maybe if one looks at the idea of Hell from the point of man’s small human logic then one could agree with how you feel ,Toad, about its existence , but then we don’t have to depend on man’s puny “logical” understanding really for the loving God”s is so far greater than ours could ever be …. Christ is recorded as having spoken more about Hell than He did about Heaven . Some seem to feel that God condemns souls to Hell but that is not true … souls choose to defy God despite all His warnings, sending themselves there …. God did give us free will after all did He not , and He respects that free will… no one likes to dwell too much on the possibility of hell but that sure doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist…. He left us the wonderful story of the Prodigal Son .to show how readily The Father forgives us when we turn to Him for forgiveness. He told us to how lead our lives on this earth , a beautiful world He created out of love for us and which we seem to be making such a mess of one way and another .
    Apologies all if I ramble on … I don’t always express myself all that clearly but I love my Faith and , like everyone here …Toad included…. love God so very much ,
    God Bless

  36. Robert says:

    The Portuguese Republican Party (PRP) was created in 1876 with the intention of overthrowing the Portuguese Monarchy.
    “..Thinking and science are republican, because creative genius lives on freedom and only a Republic can be truly free ..” Antero de Quental .. Republic.
    On 13 October 1878 the PRP elected its first member of Parliament that is six years to the Day before Pope Leo XIII vision and of course 39 years to the day before 13 October 1917.
    The Portuguese Revolution was 5 October 1910 deposed a Constitutional Monarch (same as with Russia).
    “.. the measures taken by the Provisional Government. Among these were the expulsion of the Society of Jesus and other religious orders of the Regular clergy, the closure of convents, the prohibition of religious teaching in schools, the abolition of the religious oath in civil ceremonies and a secularisation of the State by the separation of Church and State. Divorce was institutionalised ..”
    The Scientific Revolution had started in 18 century a key moment was Sir Charles Lyell and uniformitarian theory, the foundation stone of evolution!
    A long age for the earth in sharp contrast to the Bible. Then came Darwin. Marxism and Social Evolution. 1860 Herbert Spencer, evolution to societies; the new philosophies of psychology and sociology. Thomas Huxley attacked the foundations of religion and declared “there is no evidence of the existence of such a being as God”
    Here then is the Republic of Portugual immediately before 1917.

    Fatima is the Triumph of Our Lady with the Truths of the Faith (Heaven, Hell, Purgatory) prayer and penance. The greatest weapon for Peace the Rosary (Jacinta was shown in vision the mysteries of the Rosary) . Using CHILDREN!
    13 October 1917 Here was the Apocalyptic vision of the woman clothed with the Sun! Our Lady of Mount Carmel! Our Lady of the Rosary!
    Our Lady of the Rosary who defeated Islam at Lepanto! also October 7, 1571

    Fatima and the Muslim connection?
    Fr Ladis J. Cizik, Blue Army National Executive Director
    “..The Moors once occupied Portugal. The village of Fatima was given the Islamic name of the well-loved Princess of the nearby Castle of Ourem. She died at an early age after marrying the Count of Ourem and converting to Catholicism. Baptized with the Christian name of Oureana, she was named at birth “Fatima,” like many other Moslem girls, in honor of the daughter of Mohammed. Of his daughter, Fatima, the founder of Islam, Mohammed, said: “She has the highest place in heaven after the Virgin Mary.”..”

    “..
    St. Pope Pius V called for all of Europe to pray the Rosary for victory. We know today that the victory was decisive, prevented the Islamic invasion of Europe, and evidenced the Hand of God working through Our Lady. At the hour of victory, St. Pope Pius V, who was hundreds of miles away at the Vatican, is said to have gotten up from a meeting, went over to a window, and exclaimed with supernatural radiance: “The Christian fleet is victorious!” and shed tears of thanksgiving to God.
    ..”

    Here then is the evidence and solution for the Triumph Of The Immaculate! Now more than ever Europe needs to pray the Rosary! A Rosary crusade that should have orginated out of Rome from 1960!
    Enough is enough join with me in the Rosary for the Triumph Of The Immaculate!

  37. bamacnz says:

    Robert,
    The Holy Rosary is indeed Our Holy Mother’s weapon for us to use against the onslaught of Satan against Holy Mother Church and against souls … this link is something worthwhile re the Holy Rosary …
    http://www.catholicaction.org/take_heaven_by_storm

    God Bless

  38. Robert says:

    bamacnz Thank you.
    The Daily Rosary with the express intention for the Triumph Of The Immaculate.
    Fatima notice “The Immaculate” (this is without the Original Sin of Adam and Eve).
    The Dogma of Immaculate Conception 8 Dec 1854 declared by Pius IX “Prisoner in the Vatican”
    That Masonic Republic in Portugal in 1910
    October 18, 1910 they abolished the religious oath in the court system.
    October 25 1910 they abolished the oath to defend the Immaculate Conception in the schools.
    1910 In the same month of October they decreed that all religious holidays were to be days of work.

  39. Robert says:

    In August 1917 the Children were Imprisoned by that Masonic Portuguese Republic.
    “..
    The Portuguese think of August 13th as one of the great feast days of Fatima? Because this is the day She fought and defeated the Freemasons! This is the day She performed a miracle for the people even though the children were not there in the Cove da Iria! Five thousand people saw the little cloud, the lightning, the rainbows of colors. This is the day Our Lady came just for the people of Portugal! This is the day She started her war with the anti-Catholic government of Portugal. The following year the mayor was fired, and the diocese restored. In 1921 the communists tried to take over the government but by 1926 Salazar took power and restored all the Church property and rights. He took the government from total poverty to great wealth in only a few years. On the Feast of the Assumption the children were freed from jail and on the 19th or 20th She appeared in the children’s village
    ..”
    August 15th Feast of The Assumption Of Our Lady

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