James Martin: Pope Francis told sex abuse victim, “God made you gay.”

By Joseph Sciambra:

According to an article appearing in El Pais, the largest newspaper in Spain, Pope Francis said to a male sex abuse victim that: “God made you gay.” The comments were allegedly made during a meeting between Pope Francis and the victims of Chilean Catholic sex-offender priest Fernando Karadima. One of the men abused by the priest, former seminarian Juan Carlos Cruz, described his meeting with Pope Francis. Jesuit priest James Martin posted a link to the interview on his social media accounts which included a translation of one comment made by the Pope to Cruz:

“Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like that and he loves you like that, and I do not care. The Pope wants you like that, you have to be happy with who you are.”


In his recently published book, “Building a Bridge: How the Catholic Church and the LGBT Community Can Enter into a Relationship of Respect, Compassion, and Sensitivity,” influential Jesuit James Martin repeatedly applauds “The Catechism” for boldly stating that homosexuals must be treated with “respect, compassion and sensitivity” and that “‘every sign of unjust discrimination’ must be avoided.” The message of James Martin outwardly appears compassionate and sensitive, but it’s essentially highly conflicted and confusing. Because James Martin also claims that homosexuals are “born gay.” During a June 16, 2017 Jesuitical podcast, Martin said:

God made you this way. You are wonderfully made, just like Psalm 139 says. You were knit together in your mother’s womb this way, you know, it’s a mystery why you were made this way, but this is part of your identity.

Consequently, Martin denounces the same Catechism for being “needlessly hurtful” towards homosexuals because, in his words, unless Church teachings are modified, those “born gay” are forbidden from ever expressing the “the deepest parts of a person—the part that gives and receives love…

Therefore, according to Martin, homosexuals were created in a certain way by God and their ability to express love is inherently attached to their sexual orientation. According to the 1986 Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons:

Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder.

But, if one accepts the Catechism and the teachings of the Church, why would God make someone with a “disorder” that effects such an integral part of their identity? Either God made a mistake or the teachings are wrong. And as Martin proclaimed during his 2016 commencement address at Gonzaga University:

We look to other people for a roadmap of who we’re supposed to be, when all the direction we need is inside of us, planted by God. Whether you are man or woman, young or old, black, brown or white. Short or tall. Gay, straight, lesbian or transgender, you are beautiful. God does not make crap . . .

The Catechism also states that:

“By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom…they [those with same-sex attraction] can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.”

A belief in the inborn permanency of the homosexual inclination creates a difficult anomaly for those who believe it and identify as “gay.” Jesuit priest and homosexual-advocate John J. McNeill once wrote:

Since most gay people experience their homosexual orientation as a part of creation, if they accept this Church teaching, they must see God as sadistically creating them with an intrinsic orientation to evil. Most gays would prefer to see the Church teaching as wrong, rather than believe God is sadistic.

For this reason, Martin and others have repeatedly made statements such as this:

I’m no theologian, but I would say that some of the language used in the catechism on that topic needs to be updated, given what we know now about homosexuality. Earlier, for example, the catechism says that the homosexual orientation is itself “objectively disordered.” But, as I say in the book, saying that one of the deepest parts of a person — the part that gives and receives love — is disordered is needlessly hurtful. A few weeks ago, I met an Italian theologian who suggested the phrase “differently ordered” might convey that idea more pastorally.

In a completely misguided attempt to appear pastoral, caring, and loving, Martin and those who share his beliefs and methodology abandon the truth and therefore abandon those who they claim to be concerned about. On the very topic of facilitating priests and gay affirmation within the Church, the late Fr. Benedict Groeschel, CFR, wrote:

There are many serious objections to this kind of compassion based on pragmatism and relativism…The most obvious…objection is that such thinking precludes the possibility of moral conversion and true Christian discipleship. Apart from the radical denial of truth, such thinking leaves the person lost in a swamp without a map. It is a most dangerous compassion.

Unfortunately many Catholics with same-sex attraction believe the “born gay” theory and openly promote it in Church. For instance, on July 16, 2017, James Martin, addressed the LGBT ministry “Out at St. Paul” located in New York City at Saint Paul the Apostle Church; he had previously spoken to the group on March 2, 2017.  On several occasions, including during his featured presentation at the 2018 Los Angeles Religious Education Congress, Martin has recommended both the Parish and Out at St. Paul (see video interview, and a Facebook live discussion.) In a video series entitled “Owning Our Faith,” featuring various LGBT members from the Out at St. Paul ministry, a “gay” Catholic man said the following:

I think what’s interesting is that the Catholic Church probably thinks that it is accepting of gay people, because its message is ‘gay people exist and we should love them and not discriminate against them. But because the Church also tells gay people essentially that they need to be celibate, what the Church is saying is ‘you cannot live fully. You can be gay but you can’t live that life.’ And so that inherently is discriminatory.

There is no evidence for a biological or genetic determinant for homosexuality; even the very gay-affirmative American Psychological Association can not claim that anyone was “born gay,” according to the APA:

There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors.

In a highly significant study: 46% of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation.

Recent misstatements and even “fake news” regarding the teachings of the Catholic Church on homosexuality have caused untold confusion in the secular media as well as within gay-affirmative Catholic “ministries.” Whatever the truth of this particular situation or the statements made, it’s already too late. There is a famous Jewish folktale about words, and how they can wound and cause great damage. These words are released into the atmosphere like feathers shaken from a torn pillow. After they have been cast into the wind – afterwards, try to go and gather them up again.

For my personal story – click here.

Update: See how The Telegraph and The Guardian have jumped on this story

The LA Times and the Jesuit America Mag rejoice

The feathers are well and truly released!

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6 Responses to James Martin: Pope Francis told sex abuse victim, “God made you gay.”

  1. Fr. Benedict Groeschel, CFR, is correct when he says, “It is a most dangerous compassion.”

    Unfortunately, this is only one of the many horrors inflicted on the Church by this current pope.


  2. John says:

    Martin is correct. If a homosexual is duped into swallowing the Lady Gaga slogan then they will see the Church teaching (and the Bible) as sadistic. It is his duty to try to make them see that the Church teachings and the Bible are correct and apply the logic to show Lady Gag got it wrong. He needs to free them to reject the temptation to sin not push them to perdition.


  3. Mary Salmond says:

    In summary, God made man and woman. There are no errors in this story.
    A nymphomaniac is intrinsically disordered, maybe that should be included in the language of the catechism. We all have a temptation that overrides other temptations.
    We all have our crosses to bear and take up. Finding God in those crosses is the hardest. Some are luck to have good guidance and make good decisions.
    As an adult, forgiveness of those in our childhood who were not present or influential, is the only way to move forward and make better decisions on our own.


  4. JabbaPapa says:

    God made you gay

    The absurdity of this Apostate priest (I’m referring to Fr Martin) reference to a condition of Mortal Sin as if it might somehow constitute God’s Will is utterly horrendous.

    The notion that those in sexual abstinence might be “sadistically” motivated is extremely grotersque.


  5. JabbaPapa says:

    God made you gay

    This evil teacher is overtly denying the Original Sin.


  6. Toad says:

    ”The notion that those in sexual abstinence might be “sadistically” motivated is extremely grotersque.”

    I think he must have meant ”masochistically,” Jabba. But who knows? I would consider those who practice sexual abstinence to be ”sensible.” Same as those who don’t drink, gamble or smoke. Can’t be too careful, can we?


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