Fr Z on that Ceremony in the Vatican Gardens

Mere days after Francis granted an audience to Jesuit Homosexualist Activist James Martin for a photo op, the same Francis sat in the Vatican gardens in front of a S. American totem of a man … obviously ready for sex.

Coincidence?

I don’t think so.  Whether Francis knew that his schedule was going to include the premier homosexualist in the Church today, or whether he knew what sort of pagan idols and other B as in B, S as in S, he was going to witness venerated or not… it’s beside the point.

Someone close to Francis wants this sort of thing to happen.

The context is at CNS.   It is horrible reading.  HERE

It was a pagan ceremony in the Vatican gardens.  There’s no way around it. Nearby, a while back, Francis stood by at the planting of a “peace tree” during which an imam prayed a prayer associated with claiming territory for Islam.  Yes, really.

It may be that Francis was shocked at what he saw.  He put aside his prepared remarks and merely said an Our Father.

I would have said a hell of lot more than that.

On the eve of the Synod (“walking together”).   What was it we read about in Windswept House before Vatican II.  US HERE – UK HERE

My mind is free associating of course.  Jet lag, you know.  But wasn’t there some sort of ceremony?  Memory escapes me.

Ceremony… important meeting heralding upheaval…

Can’t shake it.

 

More reactions at the Catholic Monitor blog

and this from Ann Barnhardt

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4 Responses to Fr Z on that Ceremony in the Vatican Gardens

  1. Robert John Bennett says:

    The last four lines of T. S. Eliot’s poem “The Hollow Men” come to mind:

    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.

  2. Mary Anne says:

    Perhaps he WAS shocked!! Maybe … just maybe … all our Rosaries, other prayers, and, sacrifices gave Francis a little dose of actual grace and he saw …….. ‘reality’

  3. vrs says:

    A shock? What shock? Were you born in 2019 and you cannot remember 1986? At least they did not invite those pagans to the consecrated church to put some idol on the St. Peter’s altar.

  4. mmvc says:

    Couldn’t agree more with this comment by TonyO over at Fr Z’s:

    “Whether Francis knew that his schedule was going to include the premier homosexualist in the Church today, or whether he knew what sort of pagan idols and other B as in B, S as in S, he was going to witness venerated or not… it’s beside the point.

    Someone close to Francis wants this sort of thing to happen.”

    Back in the 60’s and 70,s, and into the 80’s, it was plausible for someone in the position of a maximum leader (like a president or pope) to refer such horrible events to their aides, and at least imply “I didn’t OK that, I get shoved into it without knowing beforehand.”

    By the 90’s, and certainly after that, such an excuse is no longer plausible nor excuses the leader. The fact is, it has happened so many times that any GOOD leader knows that they have to be on their guard against this kind of nonsense, they have to vet their aides and then STILL vet their aide’s planning choices beforehand, and even so they have to steel themselves to being willing and prepared to stop the event, put their foot down, throw out the offensive elements, or simply WALK AWAY and later tell the press: “the planning was contrary to my instructions and offensive to pious ears, I apologize, and I am firing the aide who planned it.”

    A leader who is unwilling to vet his aides and their choices to prevent this stuff is, at this point, responsible for it, and not knowing about this specific issue beforehand is not a defense – it is an admission of the offense of omission, of failing to take care when care is obligatory.

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