A statement from the Friars of the Immaculate

With thanks to Frere Rabit for pointing this out:

“… all others expressing concern about thesituation with FFI, please read the following statement made four hours ago. The source is Fr. Rosario M. Sammarco, fi, who is in charge of the FFI website”


Having learned of the online petition organized by the website of the Association “Corrispondenza Romana” in order to gather signatures to be presented to the Prefect of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life against the Decree of 11 July 2013 (Prot. 52741/2012), after having already expressed its position several times and after having released the official communication of its Father Founder, the Religious Institute of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate REAFFIRMS its obedience to the dispositions of the Holy Father, DECLARES that it will have NOTHING TO DO with the initiative of the aforesaid website or any like initiative, past or future, REJECTS any attempt to use a matter internal to the Institute to attack the Pope and the Catholic Hierarchy, and APPEALS TO ALL to maintain SILENCE, RESPECT AND PRAYER regarding the matter, in order to allow the competent authorities to carry out their task in peace for the good of the Church and of the Institute.

In Corde Matris
Fr. Rosario M. Sammarco, fi
Encharged of the Institutional Website of the Franciscans Friars of the Immaculate

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15 Responses to A statement from the Friars of the Immaculate

  1. sixupman says:

    Silence is acquiescence!


  2. Toad says:

    …Known more commonly as, “Shut up and do as you’re told.”

    Well, we’re all used to doing that, aren’t we?
    We are Catholics, after all.


  3. Chloe says:

    You cannot support the Franciscans of the Immaculate by going against their wishes! Pray for a good outcome. We spend far too much time signing petitions & writing letters of complaint AND bellyaching generally & not enough time on our knees! We are Catholics! PRAY!



  4. They are wonderful


  5. Frere Rabit says:

    Since the Franciscans oif the Immaculate have made it clear that they do not welcome further protest or discussion regarding what is simply an internal matter for their religious institute, we should respect their wishes. Meanwhile, before August 11th they continue to celebrate Mass in the EF and there is a very moving description of the flourishing postulancy and novitiate in the following report posted on the “Eponymous Flower” blog yesterday:



  6. Roger says:

    Exactly the same argument used in England 1534. Blind Obedience is the excuse for the Blind leading the Blind. The Argentinian traditionalists have know of this proclavity for years.
    No request for prayers and penance for intentions. The Mass is not a matter of Private internal organisation. The Pope is bound by the Infallibility of all Popes since St Peter He cannot go against this because His own Authority rests on that same Papal Authority this is sacred tradition. This is the issue raised here and like 1534 it isn’t a internal private matter.


  7. Frere Rabit says:

    Roger, as much as you might want to get worked up about it, this is understood by the FFI as an internal matter according to the spokespeople for that community. Repeat: they are not inviting our “help”, protest or commenatry. End of.


  8. Toad says:

    …In fact, it’s nothing to do with us.

    (Internal matter. Entirely. Keep noses out!)


  9. Gertrude says:

    Rabit – I agree that this is a matter for the FFI, and that they will deal with it in whatever way they choose I suppose within their Constitutions.

    The problem that is making many anxious is the rescinding of Summorum Pontificum by Pope Francis. Whilst the ‘ban’ applies only to the FFI (at the moment) there is understandable anxiety, Pope Francis not being known for his love of the Mass of Ages. I think most of the protestations are to do with this rather than the internal difficulties of a religious order. After all, if the religious are determined to worship in the time honoured way, they have the perogative to split and form their own traditional communities – assuming of course that the Pope does not rescind SM absolutely.


  10. Roger says:

    And its the precedent of the rescinding of Summorum Pontificum that is NOT an internal matter because it is a precedent! It isn’t even about the Mass of the Ages. Novus Order is completely different from any prior Masses other than the Protestants. The very fabric of the churchs the altars etc.. have been completely changed. The test is simply its that of Our Fathers, would they recognise the Sacrament of the Mass, lets start with the Apostles shall we.


  11. Frere Rabit says:

    “lets start with the Apostles shall we”

    Good plan, Roger, but if I was you, I would also pick up the phone to José Carballo and tell him what you think of him, then speak to a few cardinals. You should get it all sorted out in no time. Good luck and when you have solved it, do come back and tell us how you did it, won’t you? Meanwhile, I think I will take the advice of the FFI themselves and leave them to their internal matters.


  12. Roger says:

    Frere Rabit. The problem won’t go away with washing your hands? We are seeing a rejection of Christ and a revolt against His laws , Divorce, Abortion, Sodomy shall I go on? We all know about the 60’s revolution in Christendom the swinging 60’s we all know about Globalisation which is Capitalism outside of National controls. Fatima was expressly 1960. We all know the list of Masonic Curia never denied released in 60’s. We all know of the changes to make the Church relevant to the modern world.
    Now Father Malachy Martin expressly said that most Novus Order Masses were actually invalid he expressly cited Bishops whose opinions on the Faith were contrary to the Catholic doctrine. He was saying this , and it is commonly shared and believed by traditional priests. That this was the OR condition of the third secret of Fatima.
    So the FFI and their internal matters are up to them But the precedent of the rescinding of Summorum Pontificum that is NOT an internal matter because of the word Catholic (For All Men) Apostolic Church. There has been a falling away from the Faith to the point that whole countries have legalised Anti Christian Laws and are actually persecuting Christians in favour of Non Christian beliefs.


  13. kathleen says:

    Thank you very much for informing us of this Frere Rabit. (I saw your comment about it on the other thread, but had no time to respond at the time.)

    Gertrude has voiced my feelings too. I completely respect the wishes of the FFI and withdraw my earlier opinion that we should NOT remain silent (whilst at the same time remaining ‘calm’!). This is their wish, that we should not interfere in their internal business, so we should humbly go along with it…. And keep praying, as Chloe points out.
    However, it is the fear of the possible rescinding of Summorum Pontificum by this move of the ‘Commission to the FFI’ that worries so many of us.


  14. Frere Rabit says:

    It seems to me, Kathleen, that the silly season this summer on Catholic blogs and social media has engulfed many people who normally keep a level head. It is not only necessary to respect the wishes of FFI and refrain from protesting on their behalf, but it would be very useful if some of absurd ranting about every topic under the sun could be ratcheted down a bit! I see that even the wise and moderate Raven has been drawn into pointless nonsense with Roger. There is a strong whiff of sulphur in the air, and for my part, I wonder if it might be healthier to keep Catholic blogs at arm’s length for the rest of this silly season!


  15. Toad says:

    “I see that even the wise and moderate Raven has been drawn into pointless nonsense with Roger.”

    Well, so have you, Rabit – at 17.31 yesterday. What Roger says may well be nonsense – but it is magnificent, spectacular, hair-raising nonsense.
    But as you suggest – it might be the seasonal heat.


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