The Myth of the “Gay Holocaust:” Lessons from the Nazi Experiment

By Christopher Ziegler

“Most men start revolutionary changes for reasons connected with their private lives.” (Aristotle)

A senile German President Paul von Hindenburg ushered in the Nazi era in 1933 by appointing Adolf Hitler Chancellor of a “Government of National Concentration” though the Nazis were in the minority

This month marks 70 years since the fall of the Third Reich.

Despite the passage of time, much about Hitler and the Nazis remains enigmatic. How did this small band of evil men gain absolute control over a civilized nation in such a short time?

The Nazis pursued power with a unique brand of ruthless pragmatism, and they pioneered many modern propaganda techniques in the process. Yet for all their intelligence and skill, the downfall of the Nazi party was as swift and decisive as its rise. When Hitler gained power he immediately set Germany on a course for war—against everyone. His catastrophic military blunders led to the destruction of everything he had achieved within a few years.

Author Christopher Ziegler can be found @CZWriting

Furthermore, why was it that, as writer David Berlinski once asked: “For reasons that they could not make clear, even to themselves, the men controlling the Third Reich determined that it would be a fine thing to exterminate 9 million European Jews?” Even during the last 18 months of the war, they continued to divert needed men and resources from the front in order to ramp up “production” in the death camps. This peculiar combination of political acumen, self-destructiveness, and unfathomable hatred remains a puzzle. To solve it, we must rediscover some not-so-hidden clues about who the Nazis really were.

In May 1994, a group of American homosexuals staged a “pilgrimage” to the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial in Jerusalem. The LGBT movement has made impressive political advances in America in the past 20 years. This success has depended on the movement’s skillful portrayal of themselves as victims in need of protection. In this spirit they have cast their cause as an extension of the American Civil Rights Movement and have spearheaded numerous anti-bullying campaigns. Part of this effort has included raising awareness about Nazi persecution of homosexuals during the Holocaust. Richard Plant’s The Pink Triangle: The Nazi War Against Homosexuals(1987) and Frank Rector’s The Nazi Extermination of Homosexuals (1981) are classics of this genre.

But a funny thing happened on the way to the pity party. When the American homosexual contingent arrived at the memorial in Jerusalem they were met with resistance by a group of Jewish Holocaust survivors, some of whom were so filled with rage they had to be physically restrained from attacking the activists. One man yelled “My grandfather was killed for refusing to have sexual relations with the camp commandant. You are desecrating this place…” (The Jerusalem Post, May 30, 1994). It seems that these Holocaust survivors had a somewhat different recollection of history.

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21 Responses to The Myth of the “Gay Holocaust:” Lessons from the Nazi Experiment

  1. Tom Fisher says:

    This article is hardly Catholicism Pure & Simple.

  2. toadspittle says:

    What a thoroughly disgusting, and repellent, piece. Tom’s right – why is this on CP&S? What have we done to deserve it? What does it tell us that’s worth knowing? What’s the point of it? That “gays” can be as morally varied as “straights”? That they can be just as wicked and stupid, on occasion, as anybody else?
    Anyone with half a brain knew that already.
    Gays were put in concentration camps with a pink star on them. A lot of them died there. That’s it.
    I don’t think the piece either confirms or denies this, as I didn’t manage to get to the end of it.

    Nice pic of Adolf in his shorts, though. What can it mean? He was a knee fetishist?

  3. Tom Fisher says:

    I feel the same way as you do on this one Toad. I won’t say much because it probably wouldn’t be constructive. Bloggers are of course free to post whatever they want. However I do believe that this excellent blog normally posts better material than article the above.

  4. Few of us, I think, have been aware that the latest expression of politically correct hysteria is the myth of the “gay holocaust.” Justice and fairness, though, perhaps require recognition of the German government’s acknowledgement that there was in fact a large number of people murdered by the Nazis simply because they were homosexual. It is certainly true that separating myth from reality is often difficult: it seems there were indeed homosexual “kapos” and guards in the concentration camps who abused prisoners.

    Here in Germany – after years of controversy – a modest memorial to homosexuals executed by the Nazis was built in 2008 and is centrally located in the Tiergarten, Berlin’s Central Park, opposite the Holocaust Memorial for the millions of murdered Jews. Der Spiegel published an article in English that provides relevant details: http://goo.gl/5GisZU

    Myth is myth, of course, and myth often tries to justify what is indefensible. Homosexual activity is an intrinsic evil, and sodomy is a sin that cries to heaven for vengeance. On the other hand, small kernels of truth may be found where we least expect, even in myth, and it might be just not to deny them.

  5. johnhenrycn says:

    I’m delighted to disagree with Tom and Toad and (less so) with RJB. I submit, this is a brilliant article and I’m glad it was posted here. If I have a complaint, it’s with this statement in it:

    “It is impossible here to document the full extent of the Nazis’ evil designs, but the facts collected here help paint a picture of the true spiritual meaning of the Holocaust.”

    …my complaint being that the link contains hardly any citations and zero footnotes. I’m not about to swallow – hook, line and sinker – what Christopher Ziegler tells us without further research, and it would have made my task easier if he had done so; but I hope (yes, hope) that his thesis is sustainable, because it gives us high calibre ammunition in the fight against this scourge, even though the Homosexual Army and its Toadies and other minions (not you, RJB) will attack us for using it.
    ___
    Now, Robert John Bennett: can you tell me where in Germany I can find an official monument to Catholic and Protestant clergy murdered for their opposition to the Nazis? Surely their sufferings, endured for the love of all, should be remembered before the government there builds one to homosexuals. What about the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Gypsies?

  6. johnhenrycn says:

    The article suggests, persuasively if not authoritatively, that the imprisonment of homosexuals, alleged or otherwise, was a Nazi ruse to justify the elimination of their enemies, normal people included. It may be that a lot of people forced to wear the pink star in the camps were not homos. Further investigation is needed, but of course, your ‘mind’ is made up.

  7. toadspittle says:

    As I’m obliged to reluctantly return to this distasteful offering – from Christ’s Faithful Witness, no less – my immediate impression was that the writer’s implication is:
    1: Nazis were all closet gays… except, of course, when they were overt ones.
    and, therefore, by extension:
    2: Gays are all closet Nazis…except, of course, when they are overt ones.

    Both of which implications I doubt.

  8. johnhenrycn says:

    You didn’t read the whole article or make an honest effort to consider its nuances. Ziegler didn’t say either of those things, so stfu. Even I take what he says in a qualified way; but you call him “thoroughly disgusting and repellent”. Point to a remark he made, before you tuned him out to take your curs for their walkie, that you found “disgusting and repellent”, m’kay?

  9. johnhenrycn says:

    Toad (and CP&S): that last attempt – st**- at being funny was not a good one, which unfortunately, it seems, has led Toad to think he has nothing to answer for, but he does.

  10. johnhenrycn says:

    Thank you

  11. toadspittle says:

    I didn’t call the man “thoroughly disgusting and repellent” JH – I called the tone of the article that. I didn’t say Mr. Ziegler* had said those things, I said he implied them. And I stand by that.
    I had not encountered Mr. Christ’s Faithful Witness before. With a name like that, he’s probably a very nice person. Like you.
    …Yes, I have plenty to answer for. Unlike you.

    *Hat tip to GC.

  12. GC says:

    I saw the article as trying to do, strangely enough, what was said exactly in the title, whether true or not: calling into question that there was any Nazi homosexual holocaust in the nature and on the scale of their persecution of the Jews. A sort of homosexual-holocaust denier, mainly.

  13. toadspittle says:

    “…on the scale of their Jewish holocaust”? I’m not sure anyone is suggesting that.
    But I don’t know.
    I have no idea of the numbers involved. It would, presumably, involve people who admitted they were homosexual, and whether or not practising homosexuality was a crime in Nazi Germany.
    And so forth.

  14. Tom Fisher says:

    I didn’t say Mr. Ziegler had said those things, I said he implied them

    Mr Ziegler’s piece is a model of careful writing in that those implications are there, but kept lurking in the background of what is ostensibly a disinterested clarification of the historical record. In reality it’s exactly what Toad recognised it for. The two threads are drawn together for even the most inattentive reader by the final sentence.

    As the smoke rose from the burned German cities, we have to wonder what nation that demon chose to enter into next….

    But it would be better to let the article sink quietly back into the swamp it rose from, so I’ll try once more to ignore this thread. Poor Mr. Ziegler, dog-whistle politics and only a Toad seemed to hear!

  15. toadspittle says:

    The idea, possibly, is that the Nazis labelled some “straight” people gay, and then dealt with them as common criminals. That puts me in mind of the Soviets, who would label dissidents insane, and then imprison them in Mental Asylums.
    I find something deeply repulsive in the tone of the article. But, maybe I’m reading things between the lines that are not actually there. Don’t know.

  16. kathleen says:

    Toad and Tom,
    Whereas I do agree with you that this article is “hardly Catholicism Pure & Simple” in itself, the homo-fascist tactics of the “gay lobby”, with their rampantly belligerent and hate-filled methods, can be compared very well with those of the Nazi regime in the 30’s and 40’s. This had, and has, a great repercussion on all those Catholics today who condemn or resist their evil bullying in their attempt to thrust acceptance of the homosexual agenda down our throats.

    Granted that no one is going to be flung into a gas chamber for resisting them (yet!), but many faithful Christians have already been arrested and falsely accused of ‘homophobia’ for simply refusing to go along with them. We are seeing and hearing of constant Nazi-like behaviour among the pro-LGBT proponents these days, even among those of their gullible minions who may not be homosexually-inclined themselves, but who have bought into the twisted mindset of the powerful “gay lobby”. The recent tactics of the promoters of the ‘Yes’ vote during the run up to the Irish Referendum on Marriage ‘Equality’ is a prime example.

    Besides, near the end of Mr. Zeigler’s article, he brings Christianity clearly into the subject discussed from this paragraph onwards:

    “The Apostle Paul said that, “The carnal mind is enmity to God.” All people have God’s law of right and wrong written in their hearts. Violating this law through repeated acts of sodomy hardens one’s heart against God, making it easier to transgress other moral statutes. The homosexual agenda, past and present, is easily understood as a war against God’s law and authority. People who self identify as homosexual have always been at the vanguard of the sexual liberation movement (war on God’s law) with abortion, prostitution, transgenderism and bestiality trailing in their wake….

  17. toadspittle says:

    “The carnal mind is enmity to God.”
    How can a mind be “carnal”? Obsessed with carnal thoughts, maybe?
    Of what? Sex with the missus, or pork chops?
    What about the vegetable mind? Obsessed with lettuce and tomato sandwiches? Or with making love to melons?

  18. toadspittle says:

    And, if anyone attempts to thrust acceptance of the homosexual agenda down my throat,
    I shall be very cross with them.
    And probably puke all over them, too.

  19. JabbaPapa says:

    It’s been a long time since I heard these stories — but AFAIK the fundamentals are correct.

    People are simply very shockingly unaware of exactly how much of the Nazi (not fascist ; specifically Nazi) ideology has wormed itself into the commonplaces of the Brave New atheistic/pagan eugenicist “gay-friendly” Mantra.

    The Nazis, true, never *overtly* promoted homosexuality — but they certainly had a policy aiming to destroy the natural relationship between parents and their children, and to replace this natural relationship with a perverted and sexualised notion of “virile”, “aryan” masculinised youthhood rebellious against and contemptuous of the Feminine.

    Which is a straightforward homosexual fantasy.

    The efforts by some in here to try and protect the propaganda efforts of the gay agenda (of sundry Masonic population control eugenicists) are intrinsically evil.

  20. toadspittle says:

    ” The Nazis, true, never *overtly* promoted homosexuality — but they certainly had a policy aiming to destroy the natural relationship between parents and their children,”
    Some world-class weaseling here.
    How do you reconcile that comment with the stated Nazi plan to build a “master race” Jabba?
    Gays would be as much use for that “policy” as a one-legged man in a arse-kicking contest.
    And I also doubt if the Nazis ever *covertly* promoted homosexuality. They seem more to have quite severely frowned, and openly, on it, from everything I have read.
    However, Jabba, do you happen to know if The Master Race was *covertly* intended to comprise a lot of gays, all goose-stepping about and screaming “Heil Hitler, Sweetie Pie!” in harmony?
    Hard to see the Third Reich lasting a thousand years, if so.

  21. JabbaPapa says:

    Some world-class weaseling here.

    Nonsense, toad.

    How do you reconcile that comment with the stated Nazi plan to build a “master race” Jabba?

    That particular form of homosexuality considers women to be inherently inferior creatures, to be used either as sex objects or more typically as mere breeding tools.

    And I also doubt if the Nazis ever *covertly* promoted homosexuality

    And so here you are, commenting on the contents of an article that you’ve not even made the effort to actually *read* ; presumably for the sole reason that it fails to agree with the homosexualist propaganda that you have let yourself be convinced by.

    all goose-stepping about and screaming “Heil Hitler, Sweetie Pie!” in harmony?

    As you should be aware, there’s more than one form of male homosexuality.

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